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86TX 09-11-2016 09:24 AM

I'm conflicted on coilovers
 
So I've been surfing the forums for thoughts on coilovers and from what I've seen, the best coils for a good price are the notorious BC racing or megan coilovers. I've found through digging and being nosy is that they make noise and aren't that great. I dont know if this is just the area they are in or bad driving etc, but I would rather see more recent coilover discussions that are after 2014.

I want a pretty good performance oriented coilover but also want some that drop me pretty low without bottoming out on the threads.

The roads here in north texas are pretty terrible but since i live in the suburbs i can easily avoid said roads.


Please bless me with yalls wisdom!

MarkR171 09-11-2016 09:28 AM

If you're not planning to track the car as I'm assuming you're not if considering bc/megan, I would look into ST coilovers or Tein Flex Z. I had the Teins and had no issues for 10k plus miles with no noise. STs are made by KW as a budget option.

PeterFRS 09-11-2016 09:53 AM

im happy with my Tein Street Flex, good price and good quality..
but they do bottom out especially in the back.
bottomed out thread in the back = 1.5 finger gap tire and fender..

86TX 09-11-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterFRS (Post 2750568)
im happy with my Tein Street Flex, good price and good quality..
but they do bottom out especially in the back.
bottomed out thread in the back = 1.5 finger gap tire and fender..



Yeah i need them a little lower but i may look into these, thank you!


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86TX 09-11-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2750563)
If you're not planning to track the car as I'm assuming you're not if considering bc/megan, I would look into ST coilovers or Tein Flex Z. I had the Teins and had no issues for 10k plus miles with no noise. STs are made by KW as a budget option.



I do plan on tracking the car but not while Im in warranty(5 more years lol) but how long until those tein flex z's bottom out on the threads? like is there a lot of gap or what? I want them to be damn near close to tucking my tyre lol


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finch1750 09-11-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TX (Post 2750581)
I do plan on tracking the car but not while Im in warranty(5 more years lol) but how long until those tein flex z's bottom out on the threads? like is there a lot of gap or what? I want them to be damn near close to tucking my tyre lol


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If that's what you want don't expect a comfy ride unless you drop big money that doesn't look like you want to spend.

Either raise your ride height goals, get crappy coils and just deal with it, or drop big money to lower and get a good ride.

humfrz 09-11-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TX (Post 2750560)
So I've been surfing the forums for thoughts on coilovers .............

Please bless me with yalls wisdom!

I reckon for average driving, occasional autoX or track days, there ain't nutten wrong with the suspension that came with the car ...... ;)

Of course, if you want it ride like a hay wagon on steel wheels, have to go around speed bumps and go "ahh shit" when you bottom out on street dips you misjudged ....... just lower the hell out of it .........:thumbsup:


humfrz

churchx 09-11-2016 03:20 PM

Indeed, one can track completely stock toyobaru just fine (much more so then average most other cars, especially in this budget class). Worth changing brake pads & fluid and dial in some neg. camber with crashbolts & lca-s, but even with everything stock it was much fun on track. Don't think that with stock coilovers it's undriveable on track and is must do prior going there. Yes, with grippier tires one will ride on bumpstops more often, but if those are first experiences on track, it will take few sessions for stock car to feel like needing upgrades. Go to track, experience it, and THAN think what (and IF) needs to be upgraded.

Ashikabi 09-11-2016 06:39 PM

Super happy with my Fortune 500s

Edit: I am tucking tire on my fortunes. Still have another 1/2"ish of thread left. Ride is way better than my Stance coils were.

RJasonKlein 09-11-2016 11:05 PM

It sounds like your highest priority is dropping the car roughly 2", but you're looking for a solution that won't bottom out? There's no 'free lunch' when choosing suspension options - with few exceptions (and you'll pay dearly for them), if you lower your car substantially you'll face challenges over bottoming out. Our cars have very little travel in the rear to begin with and lowering the car 2" burns up most of what you had to begin with. You have a few options: You can pony up for a premium coilover that can better deal with the short travel, you can run insanely high spring rates which will destroy your car's handling and ride, or you can rethink your desire to run your car that slammed. It all depends on your priorities - if you're a kid and you're all about the stance, go for it, otherwise I'd recommend you rethink things. There are a lot of solutions that will improve looks and performance on a budget, but most of the guys here aren't going to tell you to slam your car - we love the way these cars handle too much to do that!

Oh, by the way...it's just my opinion, but I'd stay away from the BC Racing coilovers.

MeisterR 09-12-2016 05:19 AM

As other say, the rear damper travel is pretty limited on the FR-S / BRZ.
You can get a suspension system to work with the right springs rate with enough damper travel, but lowering range will be limited.

The MeisterR ZetaCRD+ Coilovers could do what you want if the lowering range meet your requirement.
As we design the rear damper with at least 4" of damper travel, it mean we compromise lowering range.
However, we want a coilovers that actually work so we throw in as much damper travel as we could.

This is a picture of one of our customers car.
From what I know there may be a "little" more lowering possible, but that is pretty close as far as it will reach.

http://www.meisterr.co.uk/Pics/Post/FRS/Review1/5.jpg

If that is low enough, then the ZetaCRD+ can also be a contender.
Great performance, enough drop, and compliancy over uneven road surfaces.

But if you want to go a lot lower, then it will need to be something else.
And at that point, it is probably going to have to be expensive because the only other way I can think of providing more travel is to go to a remote reservoir system; and honestly those are too complex of a design for a road car use.

Jerrick

Ashikabi 09-12-2016 09:14 AM

Stance and Voodoo(?) Make a rear lower control arm with an offset mounting section to give you a static drop without using lower travel shocks or maxing out your threads

86TX 09-12-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MeisterR (Post 2751057)
As other say, the rear damper travel is pretty limited on the FR-S / BRZ.

You can get a suspension system to work with the right springs rate with enough damper travel, but lowering range will be limited.



The MeisterR ZetaCRD+ Coilovers could do what you want if the lowering range meet your requirement.

As we design the rear damper with at least 4" of damper travel, it mean we compromise lowering range.

However, we want a coilovers that actually work so we throw in as much damper travel as we could.



This is a picture of one of our customers car.

From what I know there may be a "little" more lowering possible, but that is pretty close as far as it will reach.



http://www.meisterr.co.uk/Pics/Post/FRS/Review1/5.jpg



If that is low enough, then the ZetaCRD+ can also be a contender.

Great performance, enough drop, and compliancy over uneven road surfaces.



But if you want to go a lot lower, then it will need to be something else.

And at that point, it is probably going to have to be expensive because the only other way I can think of providing more travel is to go to a remote reservoir system; and honestly those are too complex of a design for a road car use.



Jerrick



This is low enough, in probably going to check these out thank you!


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Pbrown 09-13-2016 10:32 AM

had for 2 years
 
Have the ST coilovers. Last year I was as low as you could go (2"). The car looked awesome and rode well. Just scraped a lot. This year only dropped 1.1/4 inch because of larger tires and car still looks and rides great with no scraping. Just can't drive onto ferry's tocross rivers.


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