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NLS8520 09-09-2016 10:08 PM

Just built one on subaru.com, base model limited with no options and PP, came to $29,660. That is deal in my eyes and that is without discounts.

Zoh 09-09-2016 10:20 PM

I have my 2017 with no performance package and I love it; it's a blast to drive.
I'm not tracking it, down the line I MIGHT autocross it, but I mostly have it to just enjoy driving it every day and exploring places I wouldn't wanted to have driven the distance to in my old car.

It was under $30k OTD, and I have zero regrets in my purchase. It drives great, it looks great, it's incredibly fun to drive, and I love it. Period.

The performance package would likely have ended up being a waste of money for me.

himbo 09-10-2016 01:05 AM

I would jump on the PP if it were available for the base BRZ. I just don't care for Subaru leather or heated seats. So for me the real price of the PP is PP + the price of the Limited model. :(

nikitopo 09-10-2016 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 2749605)
I was always told that bigger brakes are only advantageous on tracks. They take longer to overheat and cool off quicker (with proper brake ducting). On the street, larger brakes are actually a disadvantage.

One disadvantage of Western education is the omission of Geometry from higher education. Bigger brakes also provide a bigger stopping power with the assumption that your tires can handle it. They achieve this because the calipers are placed farther away from the disc. Even if the force applied by the calipers is the same, the stopping power is much bigger because you apply this force farther from the disc center. You can imagine it as a lever mechanism. Overall, this is also the only reason to have bigger rims. Just to fit the bigger brakes.

Zaku 09-10-2016 07:08 PM

One thought comes to mind for those who are waiting and don't care about the color.

How does the Yellow. series appeal to you?

It's essentially the same thing just yellow.

Wonder how the ordering or allocation for it works

If my thoughts are correct those should arrive first and soon

Jakinit 09-10-2016 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 2750327)
One thought comes to mind for those who are waiting and don't care about the color.

How does the Yellow. series appeal to you?

It's essentially the same thing just yellow.

Wonder how the ordering or allocation for it works

If my thoughts are correct those should arrive first and soon

I like how you quoted my price in the original post :p.


I actually wanted a series yellow, but I couldn't wait.

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Zaku 09-10-2016 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakinit (Post 2750375)
I like how you quoted my price in the original post :p.


I actually wanted a series yellow, but I couldn't wait.

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You're not the only one who got that price it seems :) also some have gotten alittle lower but their cars have no package at all.

nikitopo 09-11-2016 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by himbo (Post 2749896)
I would jump on the PP if it were available for the base BRZ. I just don't care for Subaru leather or heated seats. So for me the real price of the PP is PP + the price of the Limited model. :(

Yes this is true and it reveals a bit the thinking behind the PP trim. They focused it mainly for the people who want to pay a bit more and feel more special. If they wanted to focus it mainly as a pure performance model, it would be based on the bare bones trim.

Sport-Tech 09-11-2016 02:31 AM

It's called marketing to maximize profits, everyone does it. Take the Miata - you can't get their Sport package (Brembos/BBS wheels/Recaros) on their base model either - everyone pushes the upsell.

Sport-Tech 09-11-2016 02:41 AM

While no Series.Yellow has been announced for Canada, they did belatedly bring the Series.Hyperblue up here last March (with some dumbass name change) so maybe there is hope. The yellow is growing on me.

Zoh 09-11-2016 03:00 AM

I had zero desire for the series.yellow
Yellow is a color that I seldom think looks good on anything besides exotic supercars.
Of course, that's my personal feeling and I understand not everyone feels that way.

Zaku 09-11-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by himbo (Post 2749896)
I would jump on the PP if it were available for the base BRZ. I just don't care for Subaru leather or heated seats. So for me the real price of the PP is PP + the price of the Limited model. :(

Here's where I like to make an argument for the toyota but take this with a grain if salt because I haven't been able to prove it.

The PP has shown up on the Japanese 86 with the lowest trim, their racing and their mid trim, which is pretty close to Our 86, so possibly, I could be an option later on for a none Limited trim at least for toyota side. It's a possibility with no confirmation unfortunately.

himbo 09-11-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaku (Post 2750584)
Here's where I like to make an argument for the toyota but take this with a grain if salt because I haven't been able to prove it.

The PP has shown up on the Japanese 86 with the lowest trim, their racing and their mid trim, which is pretty close to Our 86, so possibly, I could be an option later on for a none Limited trim at least for toyota side. It's a possibility with no confirmation unfortunately.

If the new 86 weren't so fugly:barf:... I'm still on the fence about the 2017. If the new FA20 revisions make it that much better to tune than my '13, I'd seriously consider getting a '17.

KB_BRZ 09-11-2016 05:46 PM

As far as the series yellow goes...I like the exterior yellow and with the PP wheels it looks great. There is just no chance I can be in the driver seat with yellow seats and stitching, it would drive me crazy. At the end of the day you spend your time behind the wheel not looking at the exterior.


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