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FNCrazy 08-05-2016 06:31 PM

My Car Is (Almost) Out Of Timeout!!!
 
Car is fixed!!!! I just need to go down and get tires mounted/balanced to bring them back to the shop to put them on, then I'm back in the saddle again!!!

:party0030::happyanim:

Tectoniic 08-05-2016 06:46 PM

:burnrubber:

FNCrazy 08-05-2016 06:48 PM

We have rebuilt it. We have the technology. It is even better than before.

I will therefore not drive over 15.7MPH inside any city municipality to not have to go through this again.

Tectoniic 08-05-2016 06:51 PM

too lazy to find original thread....what happened to it?

FNCrazy 08-05-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tectoniic (Post 2722541)
too lazy to find original thread....what happened to it?

Some people say I'm the worst driver in the world who only blames his tires. Hmmm...Even though I specifically said it was NOT the tires fault, I was inattentive and ran out of talent. Tires were pretty well on their last leg, and with fresh rubber, maybe, just maybe I would have pulled it out, but probably not.

I've had it a month (it's a 2013). I came around a decreasing radius corner without paying too much attention to how much it was decreasing, too fast, no traction control on (except the pedal dance), it oversteered a bit, which was fine (fun), but then I get a bit hazy. I was going about 60mph, I countersteered like normal (I thought), but then it snapped oversteer the other way and I went twirling down the road. Luckily no traffic in the way and a wide road. Before I could get stopped, I hit the opposite curb completely square with the passenger side. Destroyed my passenger rear suspension, rear um...brace (?) that holds everything together between the frame rails, two tires, wheels, brake lines, a bunch of other odds and ends.

So, I upgraded just a couple things. Stainless brake lines so hopefully they won't get cut again (not that it was that big of a deal, but I got a good deal so why not?). Rear aftermarket LCA's, not much else aftermarket. I did have a stockpile of aftermarket parts I was waiting (lazy) to install, so I had them do that too, including RCE springs. Oh, and I got two new OEM wheels because I couldn't decide on anything better, but did get 4 new Pilot Super Sport's.

So, completely my fault, but I learned from it. And I always love putting it on forums because all the perfect drivers out there then berate you on what an idiot you were! Uh, duh! My checkbook helped me determine I was an idiot long before I posted! :)

FNCrazy 08-05-2016 07:08 PM

Now I can't go get my car, because I don't have a ride! Killin' me!

Tcoat 08-05-2016 10:06 PM

Dude! You do not need to start a new thread every time a stray thought passes through your mind. There is room in Random for one more.

FNCrazy 08-05-2016 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2722714)
Dude! You do not need to start a new thread every time a stray thought passes through your mind. There is room in Random for one more.

Yes sir :(

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FNCrazy 08-05-2016 11:20 PM

Tires are still in jail unfortunately. Tire shop didn't have time to mount and install them, so I get to see what the Prius ones were like (on loan). Not as bad as I thought they might be.

Ashikabi 08-08-2016 09:49 AM

Hey! Between us we have 1 full set of oem rear suspension parts! Seriously though, if I'd seen your thread I would have tried to sell you my parts. I smashed the driver side and replaced LCA, toe, and trailing arms. So I have the passengers in a box in the garage

FNCrazy 08-08-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2724013)
Hey! Between us we have 1 full set of oem rear suspension parts! Seriously though, if I'd seen your thread I would have tried to sell you my parts. I smashed the driver side and replaced LCA, toe, and trailing arms. So I have the passengers in a box in the garage

Dang! That would have been nice. Sorry about your ordeal though!

Mine unfortunately included the crossmember thing that the suspension for each side sat on, so the damage didn't really want to stay on it's own side :)

Ashikabi 08-08-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNCrazy (Post 2724292)
Dang! That would have been nice. Sorry about your ordeal though!

Mine unfortunately included the crossmember thing that the suspension for each side sat on, so the damage didn't really want to stay on it's own side :)

The sub frame? Mine has a bent bracket but with all adjustable arms I just worked around it

FNCrazy 08-08-2016 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2724310)
The sub frame? Mine has a bent bracket but with all adjustable arms I just worked around it

Yeah, I Uh, cracked the subframe. Oops

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djwishbone 08-08-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FNCrazy (Post 2722552)
Some people say I'm the worst driver in the world who only blames his tires. Hmmm...Even though I specifically said it was NOT the tires fault, I was inattentive and ran out of talent. Tires were pretty well on their last leg, and with fresh rubber, maybe, just maybe I would have pulled it out, but probably not.

I've had it a month (it's a 2013). I came around a decreasing radius corner without paying too much attention to how much it was decreasing, too fast, no traction control on (except the pedal dance), it oversteered a bit, which was fine (fun), but then I get a bit hazy. I was going about 60mph, I countersteered like normal (I thought), but then it snapped oversteer the other way and I went twirling down the road. Luckily no traffic in the way and a wide road. Before I could get stopped, I hit the opposite curb completely square with the passenger side. Destroyed my passenger rear suspension, rear um...brace (?) that holds everything together between the frame rails, two tires, wheels, brake lines, a bunch of other odds and ends.

So, I upgraded just a couple things. Stainless brake lines so hopefully they won't get cut again (not that it was that big of a deal, but I got a good deal so why not?). Rear aftermarket LCA's, not much else aftermarket. I did have a stockpile of aftermarket parts I was waiting (lazy) to install, so I had them do that too, including RCE springs. Oh, and I got two new OEM wheels because I couldn't decide on anything better, but did get 4 new Pilot Super Sport's.

So, completely my fault, but I learned from it. And I always love putting it on forums because all the perfect drivers out there then berate you on what an idiot you were! Uh, duh! My checkbook helped me determine I was an idiot long before I posted! :)

Interesting, actually I have a local guy here that ran into shit twice on the exact same issue. I think in heavy drift situations with traction control "off" it does some crazy shit emergency braking crap that snaps the car the other direction to try and recover. I wonder if their changes to how traction control works for 2017 has anything to do with that. Without the pedal dance apparently over-steer can be a dangerous proposition. Not sure if this only applies to when traction control is turned "off" or not. I need to do some of my own research in a safe environment.

FNCrazy 08-08-2016 05:45 PM

I for one, am doing no more research on snap oversteer. It hurt. My neck still hurts.

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humfrz 08-08-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FNCrazy (Post 2722521)
Car is fixed!!!!
:party0030::happyanim:

NOW ........ TAPE OVER the TC and sport buttons and NO more pedal dances ........:thumbsup:


humfrz

FNCrazy 08-08-2016 05:49 PM

I never tried the pedal dance. Only found out about it after the crash. Oh, and no tape in my car.

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FNCrazy 08-08-2016 06:20 PM

Personally, I blame my shitty ass driving. Most likely scenario to me

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djwishbone 08-08-2016 06:52 PM

Someone needs to engineer a pedal dance button. Lol. Wouldn't be too hard, just some timing for pedal and ebrake sensors.

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FNCrazy 08-08-2016 06:58 PM

No!!

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Ashikabi 08-08-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwishbone (Post 2724554)
Someone needs to engineer a pedal dance button. Lol. Wouldn't be too hard, just some timing for pedal and ebrake sensors.

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There are multiple modules that do it already. @ichitaka05 has one I believe. Probably kinda spend though

djwishbone 08-08-2016 07:04 PM

Gotcha. I hadn't actually researched that yet. Seems like a cheap thing to build.

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Ashikabi 08-08-2016 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwishbone (Post 2724566)
Gotcha. I hadn't actually researched that yet. Seems like a cheap thing to build.

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Might be. Or maybe it's awful lol. Probably uses the brake switch itself as opposed to abs sensors. If you could make it cheap and easy I'd buy one

djwishbone 08-08-2016 07:10 PM

Looks like openflash has that option, so it's something tuners can do given the right tools. Not sure on ECUTEK yet.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85396

two more options.. Guess this has been beaten to death.. lol
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/mig-...ator-2007.html
http://www.beastronix.com/shop/86nanny-pedal-dance/

I'd prefer a software switch mode like the launch control that can be done in the FRS with ECUTEK

Ashikabi 08-08-2016 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djwishbone (Post 2724573)
Looks like openflash has that option, so it's something tuners can do given the right tools. Not sure on ECUTEK yet.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85396

I could see Ecutek being able to do it permanently but not with a toggle. I'll all Zak at Delicious

FNCrazy 08-08-2016 07:46 PM

I'm crying. How do I unsubscribe?? Too much temptation!

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wireman957 08-08-2016 08:03 PM

http://www.beastronix.com/shop/86nanny-pedal-dance/

Nah, not that expensive...

Ashikabi 08-08-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wireman957 (Post 2724604)

I was thinking more <$50

wireman957 08-08-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2724620)
I was thinking more <$50

Considering how expensive a lot of other mods are for this car, $150 seems like a relative bargain. Especially something that does not require cutting, splicing, etc. Totally and easily reversible (just unplug from the OBDII port) and already engineered.

Tcoat 08-08-2016 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wireman957 (Post 2724625)
Considering how expensive a lot of other mods are for this car, $150 seems like a relative bargain. Especially something that does not require cutting, splicing, etc. Totally and easily reversible (just unplug from the OBDII port) and already engineered.

It would be a great source of spare parts for the rest of us if it was cheaper though!

djwishbone 08-08-2016 08:39 PM

The second option is only $80 from ft85sf. I could build it cheaper but you'd have to split into a bunch of wires. Probably couldn't build an obd solution that much cheaper if at all.

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wireman957 08-08-2016 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2724628)
It would be a great source of spare parts for the rest of us if it was cheaper though!

True, but somebody came up with it first and had to figure it out, so they deserve to make some money, I guess. For guys who track their car and have to do the pedal dance several times in a given day it makes sense to be able to just push a button on/off. I still think it sounds worthwhile for someone who needs this functionality.

Edit...oh, now I get you...spare parts from those who really DON'T need the functionality...I have work-related brain-numbness right now. Sorry @Tcoat.

Ashikabi 08-08-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wireman957 (Post 2724625)
Considering how expensive a lot of other mods are for this car, $150 seems like a relative bargain. Especially something that does not require cutting, splicing, etc. Totally and easily reversible (just unplug from the OBDII port) and already engineered.

I'm ok with some splicing for $100 savings

ZionsWrath 08-09-2016 09:54 AM

I spun once on track with the 5 second press. Been using pedal dance since like it much better. Especially when braking and steady state cornering.

Ashikabi 08-09-2016 02:46 PM

Ecutek does NOT have a pedal dance option


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