Thanks for sharing.

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Haul that heap to Sebring and let's check it out!

The Harrop guys seem to take their cars to the track as much as they can. I saw the 86 in action at the Geelong revival last year and it seem to run without any issues.

Bad news my install has been delayed due to a shortage of kits :thumbdown:

Oh NOOoooo! Sorry to hear that mate :(

So from that log it looks like they saw 152-161 IAT. I didn't see any record on there of the outdoor ambient temps.

Oil temps are crazy low for on track. I believe the factory sensor is measuring oil temps post cooler. At least it seems that way on my car.

Right there with you buddy...

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I've been up and running with this kit for a week or so now. Stock 95ml pulley, stock exhaust. Extreme HD clutch.
My initial impression is it's amazing and worth every penny. There is power to spare absolutely everywhere.

But I havnt driven an FI 86/brz before so it was always going to feel fast. I'm still surprised though. In terms of pure acceleration it (subjectively) feels at least as fast as the Cayman R I've driven. (But I'm biased I know).

Next mods? Probably grippier tyres and a set of brake pads. After that..... The shop that tuned and fitted it (Abbey Motorsport) is going to be trialing the ACE 4-1 anaconda soon on their car - if there were to be decent gains at the top end I'd consider it in combo with a high flow cat. Or I may just leave it completely alone (if the Mrs has anything to do with it)

Only slight disappointments...... Slightly lower than expected dyno (just under 240 wheel on 98octane - but was 40 degrees in the dyno room - hottest day of the year in uk. Typical!). And the back window vibrates a bit when you put torque down at really low revs. Otherwise couldn't be happier so far.

I also seem to be getting better motorway mpg than before according to the car??!! - has anyone else experienced this or am I imagining it?

With the larger 700 cc port injectors, stock pulley, PTuning header, full exhaust, and other little things with 93 AKI after the MotoEast tuning, the MPG on the highway is equal to the stock car. This is with grippy 245/17/45 tires. The rattling is likely the back splash panel where the rear brake light sits. Definitely had it rattling since installing an exhaust and header.

You might find a few fixes on the forums here for the rattle.

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the long delay between posts. Finally we've had a need to get the front bar off the race car, and i have been able to get some shots of the Harrop Oil Cooler Kit Installed. If you have any Questions please feel free to make contact and discuss with us at Harrop or chat with Neal at The RacersLine, or Mike at Moto-East.

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Decent numbers for a hot day, but don't be so concerned over numbers. If the torque curve is as expected then it will naturally make more power on the road and I know Mark always leaves a margin of safety in the tunes too. Mileage also has some determination on power, some engines are looser than others and make more power. ;) If it feels good then that is what matters.

As much as the Anaconda looks to be awesome, £1500 for a manifold.... no wonder your Mrs would be pissed :bonk:

Don't forget us in the UK ;)

Sorry about that!!

Abbey Motorsport in the UK!!!

Does anyone know of a large bore 4-1 header that isn't so pricy?

TOG make a good cheaper large bore 4 to 1 header but you'll need to mod the undertray to make it fit back on.

Having done a bit more research, it seems there are some potential pitfalls with cheap headers. I'll wait and see if there are decent gains with the ACE 4-1 on a harrop setup (decent being 25-35 when combined with a high flow cat) and maybe treat myself.

I have had these on for about 18 months or more with no issues no leaks at all and all flange faces are machined so they bolt up spot on.
I have not been back on the dyno since but did notice a considerable improvement in performance as I already had a header back exhaust

Dynoing the car this week with a few sneaky tricks for WTAC this year.

I'm guessing the new ACE crossfire 4-1 header (as you quoted my post!). Wouldn't be water/meth because you run on e86....? Or maybe found a way to drop pulley size?

I wish I had the sneaky tricks you've already got on your car - built engine and e85.

flex fuel ability with a 2.1 built block at the lowest possible pulley size for both fuel types ... would be pretty crazy.

Most probably sneaky tricks regarding A-W intercooler means super cooling it with a sprayer of water or CO2, or they could be using two water pumps instead of one in the A-W system.

WTAC probably refers to the world time attack challenge, not the water to air intercooler.

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"For what it's worth"... (maybe not much other than posting a picture of a track car that isn't street legal) here's a picture of the Chin Motorsports Lotus V6 Cup car at Sebring today. It comes with a Harrop supercharger. It's one of those things where you start doing some "car guy rationalization"... "if Lotus thinks Harrop is a good idea... surely my BRZ will benefit... in fact, maybe I'd be doing a disservice to my BRZ..." The potential candidate is next to it and is attempting to add boost via osmosis.

It's a mental issue. Some of you understand...

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@D_Thissen buy this now

@HarropOz which ACE 4-1 header do you have on the car currently - the one with 48mm runners or 42.7mm?

Thanks.

Quick question, will Harrop provide the calibration file to any owner like Edelbrock does? In other words, if I already have an Ecutek cable/dongle/license will Harrop send me just the base calibration file? Or does part of the price of the "Complete kit" also have a baked-in cost of the tune itself beyond just the Ecutek hardware/license?

Just to reiterate, Edelbrock will send the CARB/base tune, free of charge, to any owner even if they buy the "tuner" kit without the Ecutek hardware. Does Harrop have the same policy?
-Matt

At the moment there is no CANNED tune from Harrop for US fuels. You will need to hit up Moto-East or Delicious Tuning for a Harrop map/tune.

Interesting. So that implies the harrop costs an additional ~$350 for buyers in the USA, even if installed on an otherwise stock car. :(

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I guess you have to factor in whether you'd be tempted to get a custom tune on the E-Force, which quite a few do it seems.

Yea the prices won't be the same. Harrop might be more premium in pricing regardless of comparison like Apple vs competitors. Plus their products have to travel from Australia.

Perhaps they might release their tune if they get CARB approved--perhaps not--depends how much they need to compete. CARB approval hasn't happened yet, so we won't know until later. Moto-East might be selling their own tune, but my guess is they are selling Harrop's "future CARB tune"--the tune that got Harrop emission approved in Australia. I could be wrong, and it could have been modified for California emission standards.

The prices don't really compare. An Edelbrock tuner kit is like $4600--$4100 after the rebate, and if you have the license and ECU teck, the cost with the tune is still $4100. Harrop is $6000 with a tune, and without is $5300 plus a tune, but even without that cost, it is still $1200 more. OUCH!

Edelbrock Tuner Kit-$4649 (-$500 for the rebate right now which is glorious) +$395 DT tune + $350 if you don't already have a license
Harrop Tuner Kit-$4825 + $395 DT tune and $350 if you don't already have a license.

The Edelbrock rebate is a crazy good deal, but without it, the two kits aren't that far off in price.

I had a similar thought after looking used Evoras. IIRC, the Evora S uses an Edlebrock supercharger. If it's good enough for Lotus, it's good enough for me. :bellyroll:

So you guys are charging $4825...and Moto-East is charging $5300... for the same base kit (no tune or ECU Teck)? Just wanted to clarify things.

They are likely adding in the shipping cost?(don't know for sure, so don't quote me on that) But I'm going off the price Harrop gave me as retail in USD. Technically us dealers can advertise anything above that as well so I'm not sure.

They charge $200 for shipping and could be adding in costs they incurred for shipping to their shop, which is further than yours from Harrop's warehouse.

Edlebrock is free I think. Luck for me you guys are an hour or so away from Santa Rosa, you guys being in Concord and all, so I would be a pickup. That is, once they get CARB approved.

May do a group-buy here soon as well :)

Btw, born and raised in Santa Rosa. Started my shop there as well, but quickly moved down to the Easy Bay for more clients. Come check out the shop sometime!

Yea I'll do that for sure.

Info as to when that would happen?

Also, I went to your website and tried estimating the shipping costs to Chicago (60631) and the website says that you don't ship to this area...

I live in a nice neighborhood of Chicago, not in Chiraq!!! Y U NO SHIP!!!

Just waiting on some information from Harrop. Shooting for late November.

My website shipping calculator sucks to be honest, because most of the stuff on the site ships for FREE. For the supercharger kit, it will have to be calculated based on actual weight. My guess though, is around $150-$175 to Chicago.

Sounds good to me! I'll keep my eyes open for that group buy :thumbup:

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