The tooling for the car is likely paid for or nearly paid for. Mid-cycle refreshes are where all the money is made. That probably plays into the low costs of the performance package as quoted. Sure the prices could go higher at the release date, but the auto press is also quoting the same costs sourced by Subaru.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...aru-brz-review

Wheels, made to be stronger and have lower offsets to clear the new BBK. They're probably very close to the weight of the standard wheels give or take an inconsequential amount.

Pricing - See below
Brakes - See below
Dampers - same

So do you think we are getting these?

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/brem...l#.V4kVrfkrKUk

No. It'll likely be some version Brembo offers only to OEMS customized to Toyobaru's specs.

What are the "cheap Brembos"?


The rotors are the same size as the STI rotors at 326f/316r, which is larger than our current rotors at 294f/290r. The piston sizes are different than the STI, which I assume is to manage brake bias. Will it be as effective as the $3500 Brembo front BBK? Probably not. Will it be better than our current OEM brakes? Very likely.

I would say the "less expensive" brembos are the OEM ones. But you are right definitely better. Maybe the reason for this is because though Toyota has been mum on what they are doing from a manufacturing standpoint the FT86 has to have this same package offered to significantly reduce costs.

Well one of the main drawback of the brembos in the PP vs aftermarket is that they will probably have a full iron rotors, where as something aftermarket will have an aluminum hat and iron rotor discs. This cuts down on weight but also increases costs.

Also people comparing the PP brakes to the aftermarket, don't forget you are getting front and rear BBK with the PP with a correct front/rear bias. It's a killer deal, not to mention the wheels and dampers that come with it.

I actually prefer the new base wheels though, the PP wheels are a little strange where the spokes meet the barrel.

Anyone know if the specs on these brembo calipers is identical to the new STIs calipers (i.e. piston size, rotor diameter/thickness etc)

That's to ease the burden on the manufacturing side. New process, equipment, traning, etc throwing in too many extra options is begging for more mistakes.

I've been through that a few times now.

Thought I'd let the Forum know.. I called my dealership today, confirmed these prices! Placing a order for a 2017 WRB Limited 6spd for $27145 on Monday! :party0030:

It does but it isnt really a huge cost difference for Subaru over the stock brakes and rims. I think we are just used to aftermarket prices then trying to sell used or like-new parts online.

Just placed my order today for a white limited today at invoice. Going automatic this time, tired of manual lol. I wonder if this means I'm going to miss out on the PP or not since I thought I saw it was only offered on the manual.

Do you mean MSRP? Invoice price is below MSRP.

No, I'm getting it at invoice. Never paying MSRP. Not even for this refresh.

Have you done your share of reading on the '17s? There is very little incentive to get an auto..