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Norinradd 07-01-2016 08:54 PM

Scion fr-s soon to be a rare sought after car?
 
Does anyone else think the scion frs will become more popular with age. Like supras, skylines, original 86's ect? The new north american gt 86 is hideous. The brz will stay but frs isnt available anymore. I already see some hotwheel versions of the frs are considered rare collectors. I have a feeling as the years go on this car will be worth more. What does everyone else think?

gramicci101 07-01-2016 08:56 PM

Not really. It's just a badge change. If Scion had stayed a thing, the USDM 2017 Toyota GT86 would be called a Scion FR-S.

Norinradd 07-01-2016 09:02 PM

Its not just a badge change though. The new styling is disgusting. The big open front mouth is hideous. Nobody will buy them

Tcoat 07-01-2016 09:03 PM

Not a hope. If they stopped making them tomorrow they would still never reach the collectibility of many cars. Unless it is a major part of a street racing movie, anime or video game that is since then everybody would lust for one.

The North American 86 looks exactly the same as the rest of the world's and the FRS was just a meaningless badge in only two countries.

nico_rsx 07-01-2016 09:30 PM

I don't think the new bumper is ugly, but i'll give you that it's design is discutable, and is not better than the old one.
But apart from the bumper, the 2017 seems to be better in every way. Very small improvements, but still.
I don't see why the first version would increase in value if the updated version is still being made. Especially since most people didn't like the scion brand and would have prefered the car to be toyota from the begining. I personnaly liked the scion logo, but well...
If anything, it will lose value, sorry.

funwheeldrive 07-01-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2695046)
Not a hope. If they stopped making them tomorrow they would still never reach the collectibility of many cars. Unless it is a major part of a street racing movie, anime or video game that is since then everybody would lust for one.

The North American 86 looks exactly the same as the rest of the world's and the FRS was just a meaningless badge in only two countries.

They are going to have a frs in the new Fast and Furious movie.

Mr.Impreza 07-01-2016 10:18 PM

The 2013-2016 will be more sought after than the 2017+ 86 in my opinion due styling.
BRZ will stay the same. However they will kept making less and less as time goes on as sales have been falling.

Clean 86/brz ones will also be rare in the future due to all the questionable mods people put on these cars.

Mr.ac 07-01-2016 10:26 PM

These cars will end up just like the RX-8s and Miatas.
Fun cheap cars to play with. Perfect for engine swaps 5-10 years down the road.

Tcoat 07-01-2016 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2695088)
The 2013-2016 will be more sought after than the 2017+ 86 in my opinion due styling.


Clean 86/brz ones will also be rare in the future due to all the questionable mods people put on these cars.

Don't be deceived by what you see here or local to you. There are probably 1000 untouched stock or very lightly modded vehicles for every heavy or questionable one. Even if every single person on this forum was had questionable mods that is still under 2% of the cars sold. We sometimes forget that we are the vocal minority of a car that is bought also by Joe Public that think it looks nice. The new style could be more popular with Joe and you can grab an old one for a song.

krayzie 07-01-2016 11:08 PM

Like this guy?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q4CXkHZCeQ"]Original Owner Honors His Original Honda CRX - YouTube[/ame]


Gotta wait 30 years when most of them have been rotted away.

I actually admire this one more.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhjaXzwUlgg"]The Toyota Sports 800 Is The Forefather of Fun - YouTube[/ame]

guybo 07-01-2016 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2695046)
video game

The FR-S is featured in several video games.
http://www.igcd.net/vehicles.php?mak...R-S&width=1024

The first gen 86's (I think they will all be lumped into that bracket- pre-2017 FT86, GT86, FRS and BRZ) was also very highly reviewed by a lot of people/mags/sites. Time will tell if the styling makes the first gen cars collectible.

Silver Cervy 07-01-2016 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2695099)
Don't be deceived by what you see here or local to you. There are probably 1000 untouched stock or very lightly modded vehicles for every heavy or questionable one. Even if every single person on this forum was had questionable mods that is still under 2% of the cars sold. We sometimes forget that we are the vocal minority of a car that is bought also by Joe Public that think it looks nice. The new style could be more popular with Joe and you can grab an old one for a song.

Very much this. There are so many people out there who buy this car not really knowing what it is and are just getting it for the looks and the idea of owning a true sports car. For every modded BRZ/FR-S I see on the road I see at least 5 pure ones. It's really easy to come to forums like this or car meets and get the idea that everyone who owns a twin mods it, but the general public will always outweigh the minority.

Summerwolf 07-01-2016 11:59 PM

....no.

extrashaky 07-02-2016 12:26 AM

Cars typically do not see an increase in value that exceeds inflation until they're about 50 years old, and then only when they have had more money sunk into them to bring them back to showroom quality than they're worth.

The exception is rare performance models, which we don't have. Look at the difference in prices between a Sunbeam Tiger and a Sunbeam Alpine, a TR4a vs. a TR250, a stock Cutlass vs. a 442, a 401-powered Cherokee Chief vs. a Wagoneer. In 40 years a Dodge Magnum SRT might be worth quite a bit of money, and the Hellcats most certainly will.

If they made a factory run of 1000 V8 powered FR-Ss as a special edition, that would be the one to hold as an investment, as long as you planned to keep it 40 or 50 years to see your return and also planned to spend a fortune to either keep it in new condition or restore it when the time comes. The special editions we've had so far are just cosmetic and won't make that much difference.


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