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MVJ1975 03-01-2013 04:19 PM

The FR-S/BRZ won't ever be as ubiquitous as the Mustang; Ford sells over 70k Mustangs a year.

The Gunma line can't support a higher level of production anyway, it's already running full tilt.

Lonewolf 03-30-2013 06:08 PM

I'm curious to see the sales figures for March...

terrypm 04-03-2013 11:06 AM

Subaru USA just released their March sales numbers;

905 BRZ's sold in March 2013

1788 BRZ's sold in calendar year 2013


Toyota USA sales;

1828 FR-S's sold in March 2013

4640 FR-S's sold in calendar year 2013

The BRZ's volume for March was almost 1/2 that of the FR-S.

vh_supra26 04-03-2013 12:59 PM

Heres a link

http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/...s/#entry726577

SkitterSkotter 04-03-2013 01:09 PM

Damn...Looks like the FR-S is selling quite well. Quite well you say? Quite well meaning it outsold all of the other scion makes (xb, tc, etc). Moreover, the little iQ only sold 383 lolz. I hope they just ax Scion and make some new Toyolas.

EAGLE5 04-03-2013 01:46 PM

So sales are way up! Seems like they shipped a lot more cars to the dealers. Good news for our cars holding their values, though some of it must be seasonal.

pheoxs 04-03-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 838526)
So sales are way up! Seems like they shipped a lot more cars to the dealers. Good news for our cars holding their values, though some of it must be seasonal.

More likely some cars accumulated at dealers due to slight slowdown of sales during the winter months and now its picking back up by selling the available ones on the lot. Curious to see how the sales trend during the summer and more and more people start knowing what the car is.

Hopefully it doesn't get too too popular

smbrm 04-03-2013 05:10 PM

They knew this would be a spring/summer seller! The next selling cycle will be important to understanding the interest level from the non early adopters.

Neo Zuko 04-03-2013 05:13 PM

My BRZ is not as roomy as a Civic Si or a Focus ST and honestly if I had a family the BRZ might not of made the cut. But single and it did!! So yeah, most people would choose utility. And the sales numbers will reflect that. But when the time comes, that's just the excuse I need to trade up for a redesigned 2014+ model WRX!! Or keep the BRZ for the weekends and supercharge it.

Tman08 04-03-2013 05:37 PM

So I'm curious about the jump from 400 monthly BRZ sales to 900...I read they were ramping up BRZ allocation here, but this much? Good to see, but will this monthly amt continue, or was it a one off month for this type of jump?

jesperswe 04-03-2013 06:08 PM

I wonder what the grand total of sold FRS/GT86/86/BRZ in the whole world would be as of today? :D
How many do you think have left the assembly line?

rice_classic 04-03-2013 08:47 PM

Just to hold this up against the light in comparison to the S2000...

It looks like the FRS is pretty much on par for 1st calendar year sales compared to the 1999 debut of the Honda S2000 and one might think that's not necessarily a good sign because the S2000 didn't become a real popular car... However take into account the sales of the BRZ's and combined, the twins are doing well.

Also, the S2000 never sold more than 20k units globally in any given year during its production and the FRS (excluding the BRZ) has in it's first 12 month period (Calendar year 2013 should be excess of 20k if trend continues) and once again, if we include the BRZ sales things look even brighter.

So the S2k, which is a brilliant car, had a 9-ish year run with dismal figures. Upon initial review of the FRS/BRZ figures it looks rather good for the Twins and rather good for Toyota/Subaru and hopefully this is a somewhat of a illustration to other companies that "affordable sports-car" is a popular idea and can be a profitable idea.

Noli 04-03-2013 08:52 PM

Man oh man, I'm one of those 905 in March. Est. delivery of July! :drool:

avp1 04-03-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noli (Post 839521)
Man oh man, I'm one of those 905 in March. Est. delivery of July! :drool:

You are NOT. They only count delivered cars. So you will be part of July numbers.

Celica00 04-03-2013 09:28 PM

I remember back before either car were released, Subaru (to get me to buy) said that the brz "is better because there will only be 1 brz to every 10 frs" after about a year, it looks like its more like 1 to 3. which is still tantalizing to some. ironically, I've only seen one other frs where I live and like a dozen brz's

Noli 04-03-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avp1 (Post 839555)
You are NOT. They only count delivered cars. So you will be part of July numbers.

Ah, haha, thank you for clarification! :respekt:

Rampage 04-03-2013 10:01 PM

In 10 months, the FR-S/BRZ has sold more units than Toyota's last sports car, the MR2 Spyder, did in the five years that it was imported to the US (23898). Congratz to Toyota/Subaru for keeping the same basic essence but making it a tad more practical for everyday life. Plus, if you take inflation into account the FR-S is considerably cheaper than the MR-S.

Soravia 04-03-2013 11:29 PM

A lot sold for a sports car. It's good. I can get them much lower price later, if I choose to get one over my NB.

Grateful Dave 04-03-2013 11:32 PM

The March 2013 YTD sales numbers are slightly higher than projected especially the FRS. I thought these numbers were going to be the fiscal year ending numbers. The FRS/BRZ sales ratio is about what they projected, maybe less BRZ's sales than projected.
I bought my FRS in June 10, 2012 and I'm in the first 2770!! :happyanim: :party0030:

EAGLE5 04-04-2013 05:23 AM

Frankly, I want them to sell a million of them. The more sold, the better the aftermarket support. Think Honda civic.

Neo Zuko 04-04-2013 06:58 AM

Despite the Civic Si aftermarket size advantage, I think you also have to take into account that the Civic Si needs a few more things to feel close to a BRZ, whereas the BRZ feels like a BRZ already. Add a supercharger, some better brakes, an upgraded exhaust, and the BRZ should feel like a genuine, high end, fast sports car. The standard FWD 2012 Civic Si would only induce torque steer above 200HP. Even then I still picture Doc Brown coming down the Honda sales floor like a maniac, exclaiming "It's your suspension balance Marty!! Something got to be done about your suspension balance!!"

tripjammer 04-04-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrypm (Post 838176)
Subaru USA just released their March sales numbers;

905 BRZ's sold in March 2013

1788 BRZ's sold in calendar year 2013


Toyota USA sales;

1828 FR-S's sold in March 2013

4640 FR-S's sold in calendar year 2013

The BRZ's volume for March was almost 1/2 that of the FR-S.

They are selling a lot more BRZ's now since you can get the VIP discount on them and you can get some close to invoice.

Once they release the convertible FR-S and the turbo BRZ...sale will go even higher...

Gopherboy6956 04-04-2013 12:46 PM

I picked up my BRZ March 20th 2013, and actually paid about $1,000 below invoice for my limited WITH rear diffuser, Homelink Mirror, and Chrome fender deals.

Woot.

PabloN 04-04-2013 02:44 PM

Great thread. I put the numbers in Excel to plot and found some of the totals are a bit high (wrong numbers being summed). The FRS ALL numbers for 2013 should read:
Jan 2013: 12860
Feb 2013: 14229
Mar 2013: 16057
If you take differences with these you get the monthly numbers. So 16K FRS sold so far, not 20K. The BRZ ALL numbers look ok. Thanks for keeping this post going.

Spaceywilly 04-04-2013 11:11 PM

Thanks for catching that. I was adding the YTD each month instead of adding the month by month.

NOMNOM 04-06-2013 03:24 PM

I'm happy to say after almost a year of patience, saving, and internal struggles with my rational side, I contributed to those March numbers with a Firestorm FR-S of my own :thumbup:

I ordered one last summer, then thought better of it and cancelled my deposit. It was an impulsive, irresponsible deal I was rushing into.

I lasted longer than I thought I would haha. Then on an whim I went this March to take another test drive, and long story short, I gave into temptation.

BEST. DECISION. EVER?

tachi1247 04-11-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 840734)
They are selling a lot more BRZ's now since you can get the VIP discount on them and you can get some close to invoice.

I doubt the VIP program is really driving any additional sales. I'm sure the larger figures are due to greater availability.

It is great to see them moving a good number of these vehicles. Hopefully it will encourage some other automakers to jump on board with their own offerings. I'd love to see additional choices in the affordable sports car segment....

rice_classic 05-01-2013 01:43 PM

Looking forward to April's figures.

Spaceywilly 05-01-2013 04:52 PM

April 13 added. This concludes the first calendar year of sales! Overall coined they sold 24,430 FR-S and BRZ combined. That seems like a nice healthy number.

zc06_kisstherain 05-02-2013 12:29 PM

wow FRS sales

Marcoscrdo 05-02-2013 12:33 PM

Im glad i drive a BRZ :) And yes that means aftermarket parts will be cheaper. Hopefully..

rice_classic 05-02-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 904549)
April 13 added. This concludes the first calendar year of sales! Overall coined they sold 24,430 FR-S and BRZ combined. That seems like a nice healthy number.

Pretty healthy but I was hoping for more. In 2012, globally, Chevy sold 25,289 Volts. Yup, the Volt outsold the Twins.

These are truly depressing times. But in light of these depressing times and the fact that their are other great sporty options for $25k, I will revert back to viewing 24k units for the twins globally as a healthy number.

DarkSunrise 05-02-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 906260)
Pretty healthy but I was hoping for more. In 2012, globally, Chevy sold 25,289 Volts. Yup, the Volt outsold the Twins.

These are truly depressing times. But in light of these depressing times and the fact that their are other great sporty options for $25k, I will revert back to viewing 24k units for the twins globally as a healthy number.

Why are you comparing global sales of the Volt vs. US sales of the twins?

rice_classic 05-02-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 906307)
Why are you comparing global sales of the Volt vs. US sales of the twins?

I was comparing global sales of twins to global sales of volts.

And why? Because these cars couldn't be more different so it's interesting to compare to something so radically different.

DarkSunrise 05-02-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 906312)
I was comparing global sales of twins to global sales of volts.

And why? Because these cars couldn't be more different so it's interesting to compare to something so radically different.

The 24,430 number for the twins are US sales.

rice_classic 05-02-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 906317)
The 24,430 number for the twins are US sales.

I stand corrected. Then those are strong figures after all.

Only 3 years did the Miata surpass those figures (according to WIKI) so this looks promising.

Grateful Dave 05-02-2013 01:16 PM

The sales figures are on schedule as what they projected in the beginning, 20,000 FR-S and 8,000 BRZ for the first year sales.

DarkSunrise 05-02-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic (Post 906344)
I stand corrected. Then those are strong figures after all.

Only 3 years did the Miata surpass those figures (according to WIKI) so this looks promising.

Yep, no worries. I was confused at first why you were comparing global vs. US numbers, thought you may have been making a different point.

The sales figures for the twins are definitely looking healthy. The NC Miata is a good comparative benchmark. Hopefully other manufacturers recognize the demand in the market and start selling lightweight RWD cars of their own.

hanabie 05-02-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 840319)
Frankly, I want them to sell a million of them. The more sold, the better the aftermarket support. Think Honda civic.

which leads to grand theft auto!

hanabie 05-02-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 840734)
They are selling a lot more BRZ's now since you can get the VIP discount on them and you can get some close to invoice.

Once they release the convertible FR-S and the turbo BRZ...sale will go even higher...

Does that apply in any state?


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