There was always an agreement that the FR-S would outnumber 3:1 since it was Toyota's idea and they put up all the money for it.

Actual sales numbers are around 2784 for the FR-S ^_^

Have you guys seen the new BRZ ad for Canada?
F***ing AWESOME!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0jmVHaEjT8A

Make this a full post!

:burnrubber::thumbup::bellyroll:

My local dealer just got a wr blue limited and I tried working a deal last friday. However, they want 33k for it and they wouldn't work with me on the price :(

When sales start to slow down they can always introduce the convertible and a larger 2.5L engine that runs on regualr gas. Then there are the TRD/STI versions sitting in the wings.

33k for a limited brz vs. 25k for an frs is a big disparity. i think that's why many people have jumped ship from brz to fr-s. it's cost savings. even though h.i.d, navigation, push button start, as well as other luxury amenities may be nice, it doesn't justify that 8k price difference; not to mention scion offering the military/college grad program as well.

i think all the followers of these twins have waited long for an affordable rwd sports car, and their prayers have been answered by the 25k price tag of the fr-s; but with dealerships keeping the brz over 30k, it pushes the car out of the means of the potential buyer.

Majority of owners have gotten the BRZ for MSRP, meaning the limited MT is 28K

Thats what kills me about buying a new car.:mad0260:
I work in retail and as the old saying goes "the price is the price" meaning thats what it says on the tag thats what you pay plus tax no more.

Dealers just tick me off with that build up for there commission knowing full well thats the car I came in for.:paddle:

Give me a cashier at the door and here's the lone I got from the bank for 28k.

Granted I know that wont change anything but it felt good to vent.

In July, Scion 1649, BRZ 498

I was originally thinking BRZ, but I like the front styling of the FR-S better. Price matters too. When you get to $33K, you are now close to the price of a Cadillac ATS Turbo. Admittedly a very different car, but there are buyers like me who are considering both. I think the FR-S looks better, but the Caddy is faster and has more usable back seats and a nicer interior. The price is the thing that has me leaning heavily towards the FR-S. When you price the BRZ close to that kind of car, well you get a lot more competition.

Someone mentioned the SVX. I miss mine. That was a great car. Cornered really well even though it was a fat pig. I wish it had a little more headroom and 50 more horsepower. If it did, i would still own it.

Joel

First post updated with July sales figures.

What do you make of the numbers from June vs July?
I guessed that many of the June sold units were prebuilt before the actual launch of the car. Where as July sold units were an actual monthly build/allocation units for the US.

Get ready for all the journalistic hacks writing articles about the sales tanking.

Probably has a lot to do with supply available. That, combined with the fan-boy rush.

Obviously there were more available at the innitial launch, as they had prepared a certain # before releasing them, so more would be moved at that time.. And then when you get the innitial fan-boy rush out of the way, you get a lower number of customers interested.

I doubt they are producing as many monthly as they had readily available for that first batch of sales, so it would be impossible really to match those #'s monthly. IMO doesn't reflect at all on demand at this point. The wait-lists can attest to that.

The only thing I could see the magazines bashing is... Toyota/Subaru not producing enough to meet demands, based on underestimating said demand.

Having worked for one of these companies for many years I would like to submit that they are extremely good and predicting sales. Check the days of inventory for either brand on any model and compare to American companies. These guys are slick.

When I was shopping for my car, one dealer told me that Scion planned on making 15k the first year, and 20k per year after that. I don't know where he got the numbers but looks like they are still above pace if true.

A lot of people, even on this forum, won't buy a car without seeing / test driving. Once people see these cars driving around I bet there will be a second wave of interest.

Ford Mustang:

May 2012 – 10,427

April 2012 – 7,801

March 2012 – 9,046

February 2012 – 7,351

January 2012 – 3,736

December 2011 – 5,057

November 2011 – 3,865

October 2011 – 4,898

September 2011 – 5,054

August 2011 – 5,718

July 2011 – 6,805

June 2011 – 8,805

May 2011 – 6,607

April 2011 – 8,180

i took delivery may 25th and im not an 86'er!!!!

They probably didn't report it sold to TMS until June (explains the huge june number)

They could sell more right now if they imported more. The only twins available around here are automatics. The manuals move off the lot in a day or two. I have seen an auto stay on the lot for 6 weeks before selling.

It looks like Subaru and Toyota may have taken care of the initial demands for Japan first then the US and are now targeting Australia, Canada and Europe. Once those orders are filled then I would expect the flow into the US to pick up again. Unfortunately, that will be later in the year and with winter closing in sales on sporty cars will plummet through much of the US.

October and November should be a good time to get a decent deal on one of these cars.

You can thank moronic dealers for adding ugly wheels and other unwanted extras for many cars sitting on the lots more than a week or two.

Also, the dealers marking up the BRZ by 2-5K don't help either.

People don't want to deal with that crap, they just want to see the car, and buy it without all the unnecessary bs.

Do you have them broken down by color?

added August BRZ and frs sales

interesting. I really wonder why there was such a big dip in sales last month now

I took delivery may27. Towards the end of the month... But it's not a first 86 :(

That was from the First 86 competition and if anyone canceled their order after winning the First 86 competition then someone else in line took it Im sure.

I live in Orlando and wanted a BRZ. Went to the local dealer and was pretty much told to forget about it - maybe next March I could get one. I then went to the Toyota/Scion dealership and got a manual FR-S in my color of choice within 3 weeks. I think Subaru screwed themselves allowing Toyota to get the lions share of production. I sure wish I had leather and a satellite radio in my Scion, but I LOVE this car!

wow!

august and july are the hottest months for most states, people dont want to test drive sun baked cars and be in the heat

most of these figures are un-test drven cars too, sell that many cars without a test drive is crazy..

Well I knew the scion would outsell it here in the states because at least when I watch TV all I see are FRS commercials and still haven't seen a brz one yet. So I think Subaru overall marketing is slacking in that aspect imo.

what subbie dealer did you go to? the one on colonial? If yes lol forget those people suck ass! They no nothing about subbies! If you wanna buy an FRS pm me! I can get deals on FRS not brz :(

I was told by a dealer or read somewhere (I forget) that only 3500 BRZ's would be available this year in the U.S.

well I was looking for either at the time and for BRZ the waiting period was 12weeks and FR-S was available in many dealers. I wanted the car right away so I got a FR-S. So I think that this is one of the reasons why the sales numbers of FR-S are higher..

Sales of the FR-S is higher because they are physically producing more. Both cars are flying off the lots so there really is no reason for Subaru to spend money on commercials just yet.

Added September FR-S sales, also corrected July 12 Fr-S sales

http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases...ales+chart.htm

aren't the vehicles manufactured in the same plant, is what I heard anyways..

I've heard that too, and we even have evidence that it's not just a rumour:
Live footage on assembly line #86 #BRZ #FR-S

I would add 1 to the May total as I bought my car, which wasn't a 1st 86 car on May 31.

I kind of resent the " frs is for ricers that just want to hoon around like assbags"comment theme vibe i'm getting. I didn't order the frs because I am some ricer kid. One my local Subaru dealer sucks balls. Two the frs was available sooner and has no markup on price. Three I don't like the mustache thing on the brz and finally four I wanted hot lava.


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