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Tcoat 01-29-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 2527771)
Two questions.

1.) Do we have any 2015 data yet for an update?


2.) I read this article from 2012 about how they aren't manufacturing that many but the ones that are have been flying away from the dealers in a couple days. http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...ype=blogs&_r=1 I don't know if that is still the case, although I had to drive to Massachusetts to test drive one and it was a 2013 with 60k.. There was another one in a part of Connecticut that was newer but further away than the Mass. dealer but that was it! It was also cheaper to buy a 2016 new from the factory in Series.HyperBlue than this 2015 in CT with some miles on it. Some dealers were telling me they are selling too fast and some were telling me they are selling to too slow so they aren't producing as much.

Either way I don't care I kind of like that it is a rare bird, makes it more interesting. It feels exclusive. I just wonder if Subaru is doing that on purpose or if the demand just really isn't all that high. It does seem like a niche car built for enthusiasts regardless and I'm perfectly happy with that.

:w00t:


They don't produce based on sales numbers they produce based on a manufacturing plan. These plans are set for at least 3 and as much as 5 years in advance.
If the plan called for making 1,000 a year and they only sold 1 they would still make 1,000 a year. If they made 1,000 a year and had orders for 2,000 they would still make 1,000.
This is mostly due to the contracts with the parts suppliers since it is very, very, very expensive to increase or decrease the contracted number of parts. Believe it or not it can cost more to change the parts order quantities mid plan than it would to build them all following plan then take them out back and crush them. Seems messed up but that is the automotive industry for you.
The only accurate method to determine if sales are slipping or climbing against that plan would be to compare the number made against the number sold. The number sold data is published on a fairly regular basis but the number made info is impossible to get (or at least I have never found it). There could be empty storage lots or Japan could be almost covered in unsold (to dealers) ones that they just do not want the public to know about.

Mr.Impreza 02-09-2016 03:59 PM

Man...those Canadian sales

http://s22.postimg.org/i341d5n35/BRZ.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/gcl0bo5k1/FRS.jpg


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STZ 02-09-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2541537)

Don't worry, I'll be contributing towards 5% of all sales of the BRZ for a certain month this year.

Only one in twenty people in Canada that bought one? Nice nice.

On a side note, why does it spike up in March?

Tcoat 02-09-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza (Post 2541537)
Man...those Canadian sales

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Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2541802)
Don't worry, I'll be contributing towards 5% of all sales of the BRZ for a certain month this year.

Only one in twenty people in Canada that bought one? Nice nice.

On a side note, why does it spike up in March?

And people on here don't believe me when I say that Scions are weird and exotic where I live!

p1l0t 02-09-2016 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2541802)
Don't worry, I'll be contributing towards 5% of all sales of the BRZ for a certain month this year.

Only one in twenty people in Canada that bought one? Nice nice.

On a side note, why does it spike up in March?

Not AWD..

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vh_supra26 03-23-2016 11:47 AM

February 2016

US
FR-S: 554
BRZ: 425

Canada
FR-S: 50
BRZ: 32

gymratter 03-23-2016 05:07 PM

The twins are still holding up pretty good for the earl part of 2016.

North America Sales (YTD)
Miata - 1,319
FRS - 1,061
BRZ - 786
370Z - 768

Tcoat 03-23-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 2593794)
February 2016

US
FR-S: 554
BRZ: 425

Canada
FR-S: 50
BRZ: 32

The Canadian sales between November and March are hilarious!

MrDinkleman 03-23-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2541802)
On a side note, why does it spike up in March?

Income tax refunds?

vh_supra26 04-07-2016 09:02 PM

March 2016

US
FR-S: 669
BRZ: 425

Canada
FR-S: 149
BRZ: 62

2016 US YTD
FR-S: 1,730
BRZ: 1,211

2016 Canadian YTD
FR-S: 235
BRZ: 114

Tcoat 04-07-2016 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2541802)
On a side note, why does it spike up in March?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman (Post 2594580)
Income tax refunds?

Probably. Also the snow starts to melt and people start to live again. (not a joke)

JonoF 04-08-2016 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 2614188)
March 2016

US
FR-S: 669
BRZ: 425

Canada
FR-S: 149
BRZ: 62

2016 US YTD
FR-S: 1,730
BRZ: 1,211

2016 Canadian YTD
FR-S: 235
BRZ: 114

The Canadian numbers look low but the US has 9 times the population. When you take that into account we are buying more FR-S' and BRZ's than Americans.

p1l0t 04-08-2016 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JonoF (Post 2614466)
The Canadian numbers look low but the US has 9 times the population. When you take that into account we are buying more FR-S' and BRZ's than Americans.

So what you're saying is although you don't have as many cool people as US, as a percentage your odds of meeting cool people are higher in Canada?

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Tcoat 04-08-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JonoF (Post 2614466)
The Canadian numbers look low but the US has 9 times the population. When you take that into account we are buying more FR-S' and BRZ's than Americans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1l0t (Post 2614597)
So what you're saying is although you don't have as many cool people as US, as a percentage your odds of meeting cool people are higher in Canada?

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Yes (to both comments) but other then a handful of larger urban centers the cars are spread across a much great geographic area. I can go for months without even seeing another one.


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