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cawith 06-27-2016 06:51 AM

Clicking/cloncking from left front when turning wheels
 
Hi,

I've had this for a couple of months now. It's gotten worse since it started, but Toyota don't seem to be able to find the reason for it.

It's mostly hearable when standing still and turning the wheels, but also going at slow speed, especially when the weight balance is moved like when going over a bump, a side curb or when the road changes from slight uphill to downhill.
It also becomes very noticeable when driving over cobblestone. In this case I can also feel it in the steering wheel. Normally however, the steering feels tight and perfect.

A local non-Toyota mechanic guesses it's a defect top strut bearing. What do you guys think?

You can listen to several videos here.

Cheers,
Casper

Tt3Sheppard 06-27-2016 12:41 PM

Check your strut tower bar bolts. Should be around 11.5 lbs. I recently re-torqued mine as they were all below that # and it removed some clunking noise I was getting over bumps.

humfrz 06-27-2016 05:15 PM

Yep, I would guess it has to do with the front strut.

If it won't tighten down (like suggested) you might have to take it out and inspect it.


humfrz

cawith 06-27-2016 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 2690178)
Check your strut tower bar bolts. Should be around 11.5 lbs. I recently re-torqued mine as they were all below that # and it removed some clunking noise I was getting over bumps.

I'll try that tomorrow. Hopefully that will take away some of the clunks when driving on uneven roads and bumps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2690594)
Yep, I would guess it has to do with the front strut.

If it won't tighten down (like suggested) you might have to take it out and inspect it.


humfrz

I actually just had the 45.000 km inspection done at a Toyota dealer, where they were supposed to have eliminated these sounds as well. They said they had retightened everything that had with the steering to do, but I'm quite disappointed that they haven't fixed it.
Just picked the car up friday afternoon and already saturday I heard it again - and it hasn't gotten better. They didn't return my call today, so I'll try to contact them again tomorrow.

humfrz 06-27-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cawith (Post 2690017)
Hi,

I've had this for a couple of months now. It's gotten worse since it started, Casper

hmmmmm........my second guess would be that something in the steering rack is lose or binding...??

Or, maybe the electric power steering motor is acting up .. ??


That would be annoying ....... I hope you get it fixed ...... :)


humfrz

cawith 06-29-2016 07:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tt3Sheppard (Post 2690178)
Check your strut tower bar bolts. Should be around 11.5 lbs. I recently re-torqued mine as they were all below that # and it removed some clunking noise I was getting over bumps.

Can you confirm that you mean 11.5 ft·lb and that the bolts in question are those marked in red circles in the attached photo..?
Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2690854)
hmmmmm........my second guess would be that something in the steering rack is lose or binding...??

Or, maybe the electric power steering motor is acting up .. ??


That would be annoying ....... I hope you get it fixed ...... :)


humfrz

I am also afraid that it could have something to do with the steering rack. They had actually re-tightened some part of the steering to the chassis - don't know what it's called in english, maybe tie rod..?

Tt3Sheppard 06-29-2016 10:22 AM

Yea it's the ones you have circled in red. No promises on that solving the problem but it's helped me and I've seen posted around these forums as well.

antho 09-03-2017 11:38 AM

Did you ever fix this problem? Mine has the same problem.
Full stock at 20k km

cawith 09-03-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by antho (Post 2972330)
Did you ever fix this problem? Mine has the same problem.
Full stock at 20k km

Yes, authorized dealer fixed it under warranty.
After some trial and error they found it was a loose/faulty link in the steering column.

Speedy000 10-07-2017 09:55 PM

any chance those videos are up anywhere else the link is dead.

cawith 10-24-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy000 (Post 2989165)
any chance those videos are up anywhere else the link is dead.

Sorry for the late response.

Here you go:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/E6oIYFsh3T8YvnBQ2

Alpha_noob 10-26-2017 10:27 AM

Hi All

I have recently had the same problem. However my car only started making the exact same noises described, when I installed ISC coilovers. These worked perfectly for the first...lets say 2000 km of use, then gradually started making the noises described, getting louder and louder each month. eventually the noises were so pronounced, not even loud music could solve it :) :) . Anyways, I was running the maximum camber setting on the camber bolts, and adjustable top strut housings. I'm thinking maybe this had something to do with it. I mainly occurs while steering left and right at a standstill and at low speed. (maybe I'm maxing out the angle of the lower ball joint on the lower control arm). Could this be the problem? However I tried changing the camber setting to it's neutral position (But not the camber bolt) and the same noise kept occurring.

Anyways, last week Sunday, i decided to replace the coilovers with the standard suspension. And the problem was fixed, no noise, no creaking, no clicking, no clonking.

I know now that it has to do with the coilovers so that leads me to a couple other culprits.

1) The link arm that connects the torsion bar to the coilover. (BTW the part of the link arm that connects to the coilover was rubbing against the body and left an engraving into the inner wheel well due to negative 3 degree camber). But I tried reducing camber with no avail.
2) The lower ball joint on the wheel knuckle connecting the lower control arm, is maxing out under +- 3 degree negative camber.???? Not sure if this is possible.
3) literally anything else to do with the aftermarket ISC coilovers

Anyone experience this issue??

tato.valverde 10-31-2017 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cawith (Post 2972332)
Yes, authorized dealer fixed it under warranty.
After some trial and error they found it was a loose/faulty link in the steering column.

Would you be able to point out where that loose link on the steering column was? I've been haunting this noise forever and can't figure it out...

Thanks!

Speedy000 12-22-2017 11:37 PM

So I Finally got fed up with it and found a mechanic that knew wtf they were doing since the dealer was useless.

The steering rack was bad.
$250 part and the problem is solved.
Hope this helps.
the passenger side wasnt moving freely something was seizing up inside the rack.


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