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-   -   Handling saved me from a crash (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106931)

geezerbrzeezer 06-10-2016 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Imrac (Post 2676805)
I am confused by this statement.

Also, I am almost sure the bimmer ate the rock first and it slid off the poor guys hood or windshield.
Joking - you were in goal and let the puck by.

I lauded that awesome video of your skillful maneuver with a thanks. I'm so blind I'd have been wearing that rock as a third eye.

Boomerang 06-10-2016 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2676822)
Well I have never had such an accident but I know of a few and in no case was braking with left foot involved.


I'd argue that pedal mixup is actually less likely with using left foot to operate the brake and right foot to operate the gas, because your instincts are trained to brake with left foot. In normal driving both are operated with the right foot, only in slightly different location.


I'd argue that it's easier for the brain to confuse whether it is operating the right foot a few inches to the left or a few inches to the right, vs. confusing whether it's using the left foot or the right foot.


But I am repeating myself, it's all in that other thread, let's not derail this one.
Nah, don't want to get in to an argument however;
Driver training for auto is taught that right foot does all, brake and gas.
Left foot does nothing.
Keep em separate and no confusion

soulreapersteve 06-10-2016 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2676562)
Situational awareness helps more than anything.
This 100%..

Ever since I started to dive hard into auto-x, I think I'm more aware of my surroundings than before. One of the first things that was verbally beat into me was looking ahead, far ahead but scan the road too. Been able to get out of hairy situations because of that.

SmileyMe 06-10-2016 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 2676717)
no not the handling, your defensive driving skills saved your life although handling did play a small role. I was in a similar situation to yours about three years ago on New years eve i was driving on a three lane highway in the left lane. i was in a Maxima when i see this guy merge(BMW 750) on to the highway from the right all the way to the left lane completely sideways. i would of t-boned him at 65mph if i didn't make a split decision reaction to turn to the right.I don't how my brain processed this thought so fast. Thank god there were no cars to the right of me or I would of side swiped or pit maneuver another vehicle. The car that merged to the left crash into the divider head on in front of me. The car behind me did not maneuver in time and t-boned the BMW.
For sure this, I am constantly thinking about what could go wrong ahead of doing it and was actively watching out for idiots that would do exactly what the guy in the truck did. I actually saw him just as he cranked his wheels and started over the lane line up ahead but like I said he was very close to hitting me even with that. I think he might have been trying to move over 2 lanes at once (smh) as he did move over one more and blast off on my right once I got in front of him.
If I hadn't have been paying attention to what could go wrong or had been a little slower in my reaction or if the car hadn't have swerved so well I think I would have hit him almost R.I.P. my hyper.blue

mdm 06-10-2016 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 2676831)
Nah, don't want to get in to an argument however;
If you didn't want to, there would be no 'however"

Start here:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-most-...959573142.html
http://jalopnik.com/why-you-should-b...foot-434604934
http://leftfootbraking.org/left_foot_braking_method.cfm, scroll down to "Myths or criticisms of the Left Foot Braking Method"

And read the thread I linked above, and if you still don't agree, contnue there

Boomerang 06-10-2016 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2676851)
If you didn't want to, there would be no 'however"

Start here:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-most-...959573142.html
http://jalopnik.com/why-you-should-b...foot-434604934
http://leftfootbraking.org/left_foot_braking_method.cfm, scroll down to "Myths or criticisms of the Left Foot Braking Method"

And read the thread I linked above, and if you still don't agree, contnue there
OK no stress, just been taught this from day 1 in driver 101:thumbsup:

mdm 06-10-2016 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 2676857)
OK no stress, just been taught this from day 1 in driver 101:thumbsup:
So was I, though in my case it was pretty obvious as I learned to drive in an MT car...


But I was taught stupid things in driver ed as well, like that I should see the back of my car in my side mirrors.

Boomerang 06-10-2016 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2676868)
So was I, though in my case it was pretty obvious as I learned to drive in an MT car...


But I was taught stupid things in driver ed as well, like that I should see the back of my car in my side mirrors.
OK fair call, from reading your links it may be good for racing but who does that every day on the street? I'm talking general driving and what to teach your wife and kids.

murdoc 06-10-2016 03:23 PM
I'm surprised the side curtain airbags didn't pop on that Jeep.

I've seen videos of cars popping their side curtains in a slalom with all four wheels planted.

justatroll 06-10-2016 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2676631)
Other don't grasp what that pedal on the right is for. I mean, they pull out in front of a moving car, far enough not to cause an accident, but they still make the moving car brake unnecessarily, because they accelerate very gently or not at all when they should floor it.
Tell me about it!
Just the other day a lady in a Jeep pulled out right in front of me on a 60MPH road (there was no-one BEHIND me, so she could have just opted for that spot....)

So I let off the throttle and rolled up on her waiting for her to accelerate.
WHAT does she do? Gingerly accelerate to 40 MPH and STAYS THERE (60 MPH road).

So she looks back in her mirror and sees me close to her bumper and WHAT does she do NOW???
She Brake Checks me as if I am the ****wad!

I seriously wanted to run her off the road and pull her out of her car and explain how SHE was being the hazard to navigation NOT ME.

I resisted.

justatroll 06-10-2016 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 2676671)
Or Auto drivers who like to use both feet for brake and gas!
Recipe for disaster
There was an entire thread on here about a guy that was intentionally learning to drive with both feet.
He just did not want to accept the fact that, that is a really bad idea.

He just did not believe that once he gets tired or lazy, he will rest his foot on the pedal and have brake lights on all the time.

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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2676754)
Did you just criticize my favourite driving technique, which I described and the passionately defended in this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100252 ?

Ah....yes you are the bonehead.

krayzie 06-10-2016 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Imrac (Post 2676767)
Yep, if I was in our forester for this, I would have eaten a giant rock to the windshield and front bumper.

I had to wait to see which direction the rock was going to bounce
Last month while driving down the local highway somebody's front lip was left on the center lane and I was on the right lane. The dude in front of me on the center lane just ran right over the piece and made it fly across to my lane.

I had a split second doing 120km/h to do a similar quick steering correction to miss the flying debris and it was really a piece of cake with the BRZ. I was quite impressed with the stability and put a smile on my face.

mdm 06-10-2016 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by justatroll (Post 2676921)
He just did not want to accept the fact that, that is a really bad idea.
Because it is a good idea :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by justatroll (Post 2676921)
He just did not believe that once he gets tired or lazy, he will rest his foot on the pedal and have brake lights on all the time.
He did not jump head first into shallow waters when he was young, so nerves in his foot work fine and he can tell whether he's touching the pedal or not.


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Originally Posted by justatroll (Post 2676921)
Ah....yes you are the bonehead.
Ah, aren't you one of those boneheads who vehemently opposed the idea while offering no strong argument against it, nor any sensible rebuttal of my arguemnts for it?

justatroll 06-10-2016 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mdm (Post 2677011)
Ah, aren't you one of those boneheads who vehemently opposed the idea while offering no strong argument against it, nor any sensible rebuttal of my arguemnts for it?
No. I was one of the MANY that gave numerous examples of why it is a bad idea.
Just ONE example: It is only a matter of time before one will make a mistake because muscle memory is confused.


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