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continuecrushing 06-06-2016 03:42 AM

2016 Focus RS - Now on the streets-Exhaust vid+Photos
 
My good buddy and co-worker just picked up his 2016 Focus RS, which is huge shock considering many people who pre-ordered this car are still waiting for a build date (Eric, my buddy had a pre-order, yet still came up on this).

I'll have a lot more photos and videos in the next few days (longer for video) but the car looks pretty badass in person.

I haven't driven it yet, but I expect it to be quite a riot!

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EDIT: New Video of the car on our dyno with before/after test!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18kPqVgWYY"]2016 Focus RS Dyno'd - Stock vs Cobb tune Dyno pulls - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w_hJfdWit4"]2016 Focus RS at HRE Open House Exhaust Rev Popping-First Owned RS in USA! - YouTube[/ame]

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...open-house.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...en-house_2.jpg

at the HRE open house, there was another RS there...for sale, with a 10k markup lol.
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_31.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_32.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_33.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_34.jpg

The Smoking Tire Matt Farah was there (at the HRE event), Eric on Left is owner and Mike on far right is Owner/CEO of Modbargains.com

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_39.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...n-house_66.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...-house_106.jpg

Atropine 06-06-2016 04:46 AM

Cool, can't wait to hear some reviews on this car...

I really have strongly considered trading in my 4 Runner on one of these...

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Atropine (Post 2671984)
Cool, can't wait to hear some reviews on this car...

I really have strongly considered trading in my 4 Runner on one of these...

Yeah, my buddy seems pretty stoked to have it lol. We'll do a video review thing in the next week or so.

HunterGreene 06-06-2016 12:44 PM

Outside looks great! Inside....ew. Maybe its just the picture quality, but it just reminds me of my mom's old Windstar minivan.

raven1231 06-06-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2672248)
Outside looks great! Inside....ew. Maybe its just the picture quality, but it just reminds me of my mom's old Windstar minivan.

I second this

P@ul 06-06-2016 12:48 PM

Battleship Grey paint? Coooooool!

JD001 06-06-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by P@ul (Post 2672255)
Battleship Grey paint? Coooooool!

A colour not available in the UK! No idea why!

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 01:37 PM

Shot of wheel+brembo!

http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...s-rs-wheel.jpg

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2672248)
Outside looks great! Inside....ew. Maybe its just the picture quality, but it just reminds me of my mom's old Windstar minivan.

I'll take more interior shots today, I thought the inside was decent-but maybe it was just the comfy Recaro Seats.

Random note, but one touch roll up/down windows front and rear btw

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 05:39 PM

Interior shots! With iphone...I'll use my camera in the next few days
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Backup cam-screen is bright and clear+gps seemed pretty responsive
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Sunroof open and goofing around lol
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

The backseat-yes, not a ton of leg room, but the car isn't huge either. Didn't ride back there, but for the car class size that it is, seems fine.
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 05:45 PM

Some exterior shots-back drivers side
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Underside-once we get it up on a lift I'll have better photos of exhaust/driveline/suspension
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Rear of car
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Headlight-Haven't seen any night shots, so I'm unsure of beam/cut off etc
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Front grille and intercooler
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

HunterGreene 06-06-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 2672642)
Interior shots! With iphone...I'll use my camera in the next few days
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

Backup cam-screen is bright and clear+gps seemed pretty responsive
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

The backseat-yes, not a ton of leg room, but the car isn't huge either. Didn't ride back there, but for the car class size that it is, seems fine.
http://www.modbargains.com/images/FR...20of%2010).jpg

I haven't been in a newer focus, but I can't shake the feeling that it looks *exactly* the same as your base model premium trim.

It just irks me that someone could pay upwards of $40k for a hot hatch that looks like $20k on the inside. Hopefully its fun enough to drive that its distracting--which is the point of the car anyways, right?

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2672671)
I haven't been in a newer focus, but I can't shake the feeling that it looks *exactly* the same as your base model premium trim.

It just irks me that someone could pay upwards of $40k for a hot hatch that looks like $20k on the inside. Hopefully its fun enough to drive that its distracting--which is the point of the car anyways, right?

Supposed to be...I haven't been in the newer focus either, but next time we have a focus ST in the shop I'll snag some photos. Regular focus I doubt we'll ever see in lol, but still.

We'll really be able to beat on it once its "broken in" since there's only 320 some odd miles on the odo. If its as fun to drive as the reviews have claimed, it might be worth it.

HunterGreene 06-06-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 2672675)
Supposed to be...I haven't been in the newer focus either, but next time we have a focus ST in the shop I'll snag some photos. Regular focus I doubt we'll ever see in lol, but still.

We'll really be able to beat on it once its "broken in" since there's only 320 some odd miles on the odo. If its as fun to drive as the reviews have claimed, it might be worth it.

Pretty sure the "break-in" period is a myth, especially on modern cars. Numerous threads on here about it. But I understand wanting to play it safe.

And just want to say I appreciate your willingness to give the comparison photos when you get an ST in. Thanks!

continuecrushing 06-06-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2672679)
Pretty sure the "break-in" period is a myth, especially on modern cars. Numerous threads on here about it. But I understand wanting to play it safe.

And just want to say I appreciate your willingness to give the comparison photos when you get an ST in. Thanks!

yeah, but since its a brand new car, so everything is being broken in, including clutch.

I probably wouldn't be able to resist beating on it if it were my car lol.

WolfpackS2k 06-07-2016 02:20 PM

The car is slightly out of my price range anyways, but I agree in that the interior is a disappointment. A friend of mine had (just recently got rid of it) a regular Focus and the interior material quality looks the same to me, especially the steering wheel center. Whole interior design is chitzy and cheap to begin with, so it doesn't help.

Hopefully the driving experience makes one overlook these transgressions, haha!

Dave-ROR 06-07-2016 03:34 PM

I can't wait to get mine so I can get the damn thing to Sebring.

WolfpackS2k 06-08-2016 01:41 PM

is it true that the rear diff is maxxed out at stock power levels?

tyrantcf 06-08-2016 06:04 PM

I mean I like it, but goddamn I just can't imagine spending that kind of money for it.

Dave-ROR 06-08-2016 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 2674511)
is it true that the rear diff is maxxed out at stock power levels?

eh.. I don't think anyone knows.. but logically the clutch packs are designed to slip and they will only hold so much torque so without upgrading the clutches then it makes sense that there will be a point where added torque from mods will make it more front biased.

What is that limit? I doubt anyone outside of Ford and GKN know the true answer yet. And I'd bet upgraded clutches will be made to address it if it's a big enough problem.

I think I'll be happy with stock power to maybe 50hp over stock.

continuecrushing 06-13-2016 05:04 PM

doing a photo/video shoot after work today.

Photos will be up pretty quickly (tomorrow at the latest) but video might take longer.

I'll at least get a teaser video out pretty quick though.

YukiHachiRoku 06-16-2016 12:00 PM

Good times, sir. I bet you got a lot of looks, and stirred up conversations easily with ppl.

gtslow 06-16-2016 12:19 PM

I don't understand the gripes about the interior. I hear the same stuff about the Evo and the STI. The car isn't about soft touch, ultra high quality materials on the dash. It is essentially a modern homoligation special. As a driver if the materials I touch in the car i.e. seats, wheel, shifter, pedals are all good materials and ergonomic I am happy. At the end of the day this is a Ford Focus not a Porsche or an Audi. It's been said that if you are more inclined to worry about refinements and want a hot hatch the Golf R is the way to go.

ZetaVI 06-16-2016 01:02 PM

I'm personally excited to see the Focus RS finally in the US. Awesome hot hatch.

Silver Cervy 06-16-2016 01:41 PM

I freaking love that car. The last gen RS was by far my favorite hot hatch.

Pretty sweet that you got to meet Matt as well.

fang_gt86 07-15-2016 05:15 PM

Idiot Australian News Calls Ford Focus RS 'Illegal'
 
Is the "drift" mode really that scary for you mate? lol

http://jalopnik.com/idiot-australian...gal-1783738056

darthpnoy1984 07-15-2016 05:40 PM

I'm happy we finally got the Focus RS after we've been begging for this car for a decade. The aftermarket seem to be embracing this car already.


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TylerLieberman 07-18-2016 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2672671)
I haven't been in a newer focus, but I can't shake the feeling that it looks *exactly* the same as your base model premium trim.

It just irks me that someone could pay upwards of $40k for a hot hatch that looks like $20k on the inside. Hopefully its fun enough to drive that its distracting--which is the point of the car anyways, right?

Yes. It's the exact same as the ST, aside from some stitching, badges, and a couple sections of alcantara. It's the same with the STI to the WRX to the Impreza. At the end of the day, these are just hopped up economy cars - and the interiors reflect that.

I'm just anxiously awaiting the videos of people wrapping these cars around poles and trees using the "drift mode"

TylerLieberman 07-18-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtslow (Post 2682226)
I don't understand the gripes about the interior. I hear the same stuff about the Evo and the STI. The car isn't about soft touch, ultra high quality materials on the dash. It is essentially a modern homoligation special. As a driver if the materials I touch in the car i.e. seats, wheel, shifter, pedals are all good materials and ergonomic I am happy. At the end of the day this is a Ford Focus not a Porsche or an Audi. It's been said that if you are more inclined to worry about refinements and want a hot hatch the Golf R is the way to go.

Agreed. I have a '16 STI, and while I would like to change a few things in the interior, I bought the car knowing that at the end of the day, it's a hopped up Impreza. The GTI and Golf R are much better in terms of interior, but they sacrifice elsewhere.

DAEMANO 07-18-2016 06:14 PM

Chris Harris noted that it just understeers like mad and has a hard time keeping the rear-end in shape when driven the way a pro driver can drive it on a closed course (Rory Reid seemed to love it). It looks to me that the RS is going to be best left to street duty unless modifications are made at which point the extra cost seems kind of pointless. Still, it looks hella fun on a back road.

Coaster 07-19-2016 06:26 PM

Thought this from thedrive was interesting

Quote:

The Focus RS just ‘feels’ like Motorsport

This is very hard to explain, but roll with me here. Certain road cars feel like Motorsport. The Shelby GT350 and Fifth-Gen Camaro Z28 have it. The Porsche 911 GT3 has it. And now, the Focus RS has it. Certain cars offer a level of feel, feedback, and connectivity that really, truly, feel like race cars. It’s a feeling of power moving from the engine through the driveline to the wheels. It’s an engagement of the driver on another level that goes beyond the performance of the car. It’s a combination of robustness, well-tuned engine vibrations, perfect controls, and harmony. There are good cars—great cars, even—that do not have Motorsport feel. The Ferrari 488 GTB and Lamborghini Huracan, for instance. Both are excellent cars, incredible performance machines, and lightning fast. But they feel like road cars. McLarens feel like Motorsport; like they took the race car and made it streetable, and not the other way around. This, more than anything else I can tell you about the Focus RS, is why I’m happy to pay $750 per month for this thing. Motorsport feel can’t be quantified, it can’t be measured objectively, and so far, it hasn’t been mentioned in any reviews. The Focus and Fiesta ST are both great cars, but do not offer Motorsport Feel. The Mitsubishi Evo and Subaru STI are great performance cars, but neither offers Motorsport Feel. The Focus RS does, and that’s why:
I haven't driven enough really good cars or race cars to say something similar to this about any car.

Dave-ROR 07-19-2016 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2707458)
Chris Harris noted that it just understeers like mad and has a hard time keeping the rear-end in shape when driven the way a pro driver can drive it on a closed course (Rory Reid seemed to love it). It looks to me that the RS is going to be best left to street duty unless modifications are made at which point the extra cost seems kind of pointless. Still, it looks hella fun on a back road.

He did, yet other guys like him love them. Who knows.

Mine certainly won't be shielded from track use. Of course, the TG track is a terrible setup which likely doesn't help...

Talus1 07-26-2016 04:23 PM

So, I just had my first little taste of the RS...

The background:

The lease on my BRZ is up in mid-August. As much fun as it has been, it is time for something different. Something with a lot better torque to weight ratio. I've been daydreaming about a used Cayman S for a long time. But then I thought I would need something a bit more winter practical, even if we already have an AWD wagon as the wifemobile. For a while, I was thinking of an STI or Golf R. I drove the WRX and STI last year and a Golf R earlier this year. They were OK, but didn't really rock my world. Then the RS launch was all over the internet, but it appeared that the first year's allocations would all be pre-orders so I wouldn't be able to get one before the BRZ went back.

I casually mentioned to my wife that getting a motorcycle again might be fun. She surprised me by saying I should replace the BRZ with a practical AWD car for the winter and then next spring I should get something fun for the summer, like a Cayman. (I'm still not sure who outsmarted who there. She knows me too well). So, I ended up getting us a newish winter 'beater' and started looking at used Caymans again. Most of our driving is around town and Southern Ontario doesn't have a lot of great driver's roads, so I started second guessing myself. Maybe it would make more sense to get something that would be more fun zipping around in traffic - something the BRZ was actually pretty good at.

So, we're on vacation this week and I was looking for a way to kill some time this morning while waiting for the 'beater' to get Krowned (better it should drip oil all over the gravel drive at the cottage than the interlocking brick at home), so I checked the local Ford dealer's web inventory to see if by chance they had a FiST. Instead, it showed they had an RS.

We dropped by and sure enough it was there but was already sold. Turns out that the junior sales guy I was talking to knows my brother. He took me out back to show me the car and let me sit in it. It's black and looks very purposeful, though I'd have preferred the grey. It has the Cup 2 tires on the black rims. My preference would have been the MPSS, but from the Ford Canada website it looks like they are all coming with the Cup 2 tires now. In fact there don't appear to be any options other than colour.

The Recaros are really comfortable - way better than the BRZ seats - and the driving position is just about perfect for me. I can even see the gauges when the steering wheel is properly adjusted, which isn't true of most cars I've tried, including the BRZ. Then the kid handed me the key fob and said "no harm in starting it up". We chatted a bit more, and then he hopped in the passenger seat and asked if I wanted to drive it around the lot. I briefly considered pressing the drive mode button a couple of times to put it in "drift" but decided not to in consideration for the kid's job. The clutch action is very light. I couldn't really judge the steering feel at that speed but it did feel pretty good.

The more senior sales guy I talked to claimed they would be able to get me one in 4-6 weeks. The junior guy also thought I could get Employee Pricing on it. Tempting.

So, used Cayman S or Focus RS? Either one is more than practical enough for us as a summer, around town, daily driver/weekend car. The Focus is more comfortable for me. I find the Cayman borderline too small, given my long legs. The interior of the Cayman is nicer, but not by that much unless it has the full leather package. The Cayman feels great on the road, though you still really have to wind it out to get the best out of it. I imagine the RS would feel a bit more artificial with all the torque vectoring, but I couldn't tell at parking lot speeds. The RS will have some turbo lag, which I hate in traffic, but then the Cayman would also have to be downshifted to make sudden progress. The Focus feels special and is likely to be a collectable, but the Cayman feels pretty special too and the 6 cyl versions will be increasingly sought after in the future. Decisions, decisions.

TLDR - I drove a Focus RS around the dealership parking lot and it was pretty nice. :party0030:

HunterGreene 07-26-2016 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talus1 (Post 2713650)
So, I just had my first little taste of the RS...

We dropped by and sure enough it was there but was already sold. Turns out that the junior sales guy I was talking to knows my brother. He took me out back to show me the car and let me sit in it.

Then the kid handed me the key fob and said "no harm in starting it up". We chatted a bit more, and then he hopped in the passenger seat and asked if I wanted to drive it around the lot. I briefly considered pressing the drive mode button a couple of times to put it in "drift" but decided not to in consideration for the kid's job. The clutch action is very light. I couldn't really judge the steering feel at that speed but it did feel pretty good.

TLDR - I drove a Focus RS around the dealership parking lot and it was pretty nice. :party0030:

Glad you got the experience...

But if I had been the guy/girl who bought that car, and found out that someone had been allowed in it, let alone drive it just around the lot after I had already paid for it, I would have demanded that "kid's" head on a silver platter. :mad0260:

Talus1 07-26-2016 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterGreene (Post 2713714)
Glad you got the experience...

But if I had been the guy/girl who bought that car, and found out that someone had been allowed in it, let alone drive it just around the lot after I had already paid for it, I would have demanded that "kid's" head on a silver platter. :mad0260:

Ya, I had the same thought. But the little devil on my shoulder said "do it"!

PS, I'll have to call the kid and tell him to let me know when someone orders a GT...

HunterGreene 07-27-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talus1 (Post 2713757)
Ya, I had the same thought. But the little devil on my shoulder said "do it"!

PS, I'll have to call the kid and tell him to let me know when someone orders a GT...

:lol: Call me up too, I'll swing by. We can tag-team, whats the worst that can happen?

Dave-ROR 07-28-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talus1 (Post 2713650)

The more senior sales guy I talked to claimed they would be able to get me one in 4-6 weeks. The junior guy also thought I could get Employee Pricing on it. Tempting.

So, used Cayman S or Focus RS? Either one is more than practical enough for us as a summer, around town, daily driver/weekend car. The Focus is more comfortable for me. I find the Cayman borderline too small, given my long legs. The interior of the Cayman is nicer, but not by that much unless it has the full leather package. The Cayman feels great on the road, though you still really have to wind it out to get the best out of it. I imagine the RS would feel a bit more artificial with all the torque vectoring, but I couldn't tell at parking lot speeds. The RS will have some turbo lag, which I hate in traffic, but then the Cayman would also have to be downshifted to make sudden progress. The Focus feels special and is likely to be a collectable, but the Cayman feels pretty special too and the 6 cyl versions will be increasingly sought after in the future. Decisions, decisions.

TLDR - I drove a Focus RS around the dealership parking lot and it was pretty nice. :party0030:

Good luck with that employee pricing.. no plan programs apply to any of the top classification FP vehicle, which includes the RS, GT350, GT and Raptor.

A lot of people wish that weren't the case, but at this point at lesat, it is. With a 2 year run, I doubt it'll change in 2017.

I also have switched back and forth myself.. but then I made a massive mistake. I drove a GT4. There's no way in hell I'd buy a Cayman S anymore.

So it's Focus RS for me.

funwheeldrive 07-28-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2715456)
Good luck with that employee pricing.. no plan programs apply to any of the top classification FP vehicle, which includes the RS, GT350, GT and Raptor.

A lot of people wish that weren't the case, but at this point at lesat, it is. With a 2 year run, I doubt it'll change in 2017.

I also have switched back and forth myself.. but then I made a massive mistake. I drove a GT4. There's no way in hell I'd buy a Cayman S anymore.

So it's Focus RS for me.

No GT4 for you?

Dave-ROR 07-28-2016 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2715494)
No GT4 for you?

I can't justify the cost. I can almost justify the price of the GT350 though but I'm waiting to see how the RS is.

I can sell it with barely any loss (besides taxes) so fairly low risk to wait, drive it for 6-12 months and then re-evaluate. (assuming current used market holds even remotely to what it is, given the recent too much demand and not enough supply cancellations that seems likely).

CBR600RR 07-28-2016 03:56 PM

My Wife has a fully loaded 2016 Focus ST. Hers comes with real CF trim. The RS doesn't which seems really strange to me.


The interior is basically the exact same on both cars. The RS has better/race-ier Recaros. The top trim ST has a bunch of real CF pieces everywhere (including a CF shift knob). No difference otherwise, from what I can see.


In my opinion, the Recaro seats in the ST are super nice - nearly as nice as the RS Recaros. To the point where I would say the ST has a nicer interior than the RS due to the CF.


The RS interior is a bit of a let down. But maybe the CF is an available option for the RS. Not sure.


All in all though. I am pretty dammed impressed with the interior of my Wife's ST.


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