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continuecrushing 08-12-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 2728232)
Might be a dumb question, but why is it only spinning the front wheels? I thought this car was AWD?

although the dyno is awd, the rollers are not linked(yet).

So, theoretically the car could/would power the front vs rear wheels differently, damaging the differentials in the car.

So, right now the best option is to disconnect the rear differential!

When we have the dyno "linked" the car will be able to be re-tested again in awd.

Even Cobb is disconnecting the rear diff when they've been testing!

BigFatFlip 08-12-2016 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by continuecrushing (Post 2728236)
although the dyno is awd, the rollers are not linked(yet).

So, theoretically the car could/would power the front vs rear wheels differently, damaging the differentials in the car.

So, right now the best option is to disconnect the rear differential!

When we have the dyno "linked" the car will be able to be re-tested again in awd.

Even Cobb is disconnecting the rear diff when they've been testing!

Interesting...do is this a feature where you can "turn on/off" the rear diff or you physically have to disconnect the rear diff (ie, remove the drive shaft, etc)? I've owned wrxs in the past, so this RDU is all voodoo to me :D

continuecrushing 08-12-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 2728240)
Interesting...do is this a feature where you can "turn on/off" the rear diff or you physically have to disconnect the rear diff (ie, remove the drive shaft, etc)? I've owned wrxs in the past, so this RDU is all voodoo to me :D

no, its just a plug! The whole thing is controlled by clutches, sensors and witchcraft.

So, lucky for us, when you unplug the rear diff, it completely disconnects the clutch? in the rear diff-so the driveshaft will still spin, but the clutches aren't engaged so no power makes it to the rear wheels!

BigFatFlip 08-13-2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by continuecrushing (Post 2728253)
no, its just a plug! The whole thing is controlled by clutches, sensors and witchcraft.

So, lucky for us, when you unplug the rear diff, it completely disconnects the clutch? in the rear diff-so the driveshaft will still spin, but the clutches aren't engaged so no power makes it to the rear wheels!

Cool, I guess that's the same mechanism that disengages the RDU when it over heats from too much durifto's ;)

BigFatFlip 08-13-2016 01:19 PM

Watching all the new DIYs coming out for this car. So far seems like a huge PITA to work on compared to the 86 & wrx.

TylerLieberman 08-13-2016 01:55 PM

Not sure if it's been posted, or if anybody else has seen it, but Vorshlag did a developmental thread on the car.

Seems to be exactly what I expected. All hype. 300F oil temps after just 3 laps in 79F temp weather?

Great street car. Shit track car.

http://trackmustangsonline.com/index....0%3Btopicseen

funwheeldrive 08-14-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 2728506)
Watching all the new DIYs coming out for this car. So far seems like a huge PITA to work on compared to the 86 & wrx.

I could see the 86 being easier to work on, but I would think a turbo inline 4 would be a lot easier to work on compared to a turbo boxer 4

BigFatFlip 08-14-2016 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 2728943)
I could see the 86 being easier to work on, but I would think a turbo inline 4 would be a lot easier to work on compared to a turbo boxer 4

That's what I thought too, but after looking at a few videos, it looks like there's just so little working room with that ecoboost. Just look a this video, 2 hrs for a catch can install?!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2B02QWJ2lE"]2016+ Ford Focus RS Baffled Oil Catch Can, PCV Side Installation Guide by Mishimoto - YouTube[/ame]

funwheeldrive 08-14-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip (Post 2728980)
That's what I thought too, but after looking at a few videos, it looks like there's just so little working room with that ecoboost. Just look a this video, 2 hrs for a catch can install?!

2016+ Ford Focus RS Baffled Oil Catch Can, PCV Side Installation Guide by Mishimoto - YouTube

So many sensors :bellyroll:

TylerLieberman 08-14-2016 06:25 PM

Remove intake manifold to install a catch can? Lmao wtf!

No thanks

continuecrushing 08-15-2016 05:36 AM

Right lol? And we've got the mishimoto can at our shop. The boss said, "when you gonna get this installed?"

After install I'll have a better idea of time-supposedly one of our techs installs a catch can on the focus ST and the procedure is similar, but he's figured out some shortcuts. Hopefully we can find one for the RS.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2729095)
Remove intake manifold to install a catch can? Lmao wtf!

No thanks


DarkSunrise 08-15-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2728526)
Not sure if it's been posted, or if anybody else has seen it, but Vorshlag did a developmental thread on the car.

Seems to be exactly what I expected. All hype. 300F oil temps after just 3 laps in 79F temp weather?

Great street car. Shit track car.

http://trackmustangsonline.com/index....0%3Btopicseen

Damn that was a harsh review. In fairness it doesn't seem like most of the issues are uncommon or will be impossible to fix - camber, body roll/brake dive, understeer, oil temps, etc. Same issues a lot of production cars have on track. Will just take some time (judging from those underhood pics) and money to remedy.

The only thing that disappointed me was the issue they had with the RDU. I got the sense Ford marketed this as an AWD car that feels RWD when pushed, so it's surprising they said it felt like the rear wheels weren't doing anything at the track. The RDU is the one part of the car I thought Ford would have gotten right. I'd be curious to hear feedback from other Focus RS owners who track their cars.

Dave-ROR 08-17-2016 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 2728526)
Not sure if it's been posted, or if anybody else has seen it, but Vorshlag did a developmental thread on the car.

Seems to be exactly what I expected. All hype. 300F oil temps after just 3 laps in 79F temp weather?

Great street car. Shit track car.

http://trackmustangsonline.com/index....0%3Btopicseen

But then, Terry is an idiot.

Cars here have been doing 30 minute sessions without issues in 93-95 ambient temps and 270-280 oil temps, no RDU shutdowns, etc.

Once mine arrives I'll shoot for 60 minutes straight during the happy hour at a Chin event.

TylerLieberman 08-17-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2731025)
But then, Terry is an idiot.

Cars here have been doing 30 minute sessions without issues in 93-95 ambient temps and 270-280 oil temps, no RDU shutdowns, etc.

Once mine arrives I'll shoot for 60 minutes straight during the happy hour at a Chin event.

Seems somewhat inconsistent, especially when you consider that this was not the only time the RDU showed signs of issues.


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