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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671589)

That which does not kill you... :cheers:

Well, now, @Super Dave ...... first off your question (observation) is NOT a dumb question,

Now, that doesn't mean we can't come up with a few dumb answers .... :eyebulge:

Back-in-the-day ...... I would speculate that the identical car with the "much harder to push clutch" had some part of the clutch linkage bent.

Now, since our cars do not have much clutch linkage ........ oh, I'll let @Ultramaroon take it on in ........ :popcorn:

humfrz

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2671237)

Yeah in 2013 a lot of FRS/BRZ owners adjusted their clutch pedals which could change the feeling (it was one of the first DIYs for our cars actually)

While we are talking about clutches and TOB. I heard mentioned in another thread that you can buy a more robust TOB for the FRS if preferred. Which TOB would fit the FRS and be a little more "beefy"?

I suspect SFK supplies the oem tob because they look identical. Is there another one?

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671633)

I suspect SFK supplies the oem tob because they look identical. Is there another one?

Would SFK have a tob that would fit but be a stronger alternative to oem? Unless it's silly to want an aftermarktet tob

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2671517)

Trans fluid. Ive heard alot of stories on here of a 'night & day' difference from changing fluids.

Trans fluid doesn't come in contact with the clutch, at all.

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2671956)

Would SFK have a tob that would fit but be a stronger alternative to oem? Unless it's silly to want an aftermarktet tob

I don't think it's silly at all. Someone may chime in but I haven't seen any alternatives.

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Originally Posted by jwvand02 (Post 2672089)

Trans fluid doesn't come in contact with the clutch, at all.

He's talking about using trans fluid instead of brake fluid. It's feasible.

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2671006)

@Tcoat or @Ultramaroon........ please help the folks out ........ I sense many misconceptions ........:eyebulge:

humfrz

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Originally Posted by Super Dave (Post 2670517)

So first off let me say this may be a dumb question. But here it goes...

Today i drove a friends 2013 BRZ. For comparison i have a 2015 FRS. His has roughly 35k miles and mine barely over 11k. To both of our surprise the clutch pedal felt completely different. His was much stiffer than mine. My "throw" in the pedal is almost effortless compared to his. Both of our clutches are stock. What exactly would cause such a massive difference in the feel of the pedal?

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671212)

I'm curious enough to want to ask your friend if he's done anything to his clutch.

There is something to @jcw99's explanation. I have felt that change but it has never been radically different.

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2671237)

Never got the notice and just stumbled across this.

Did your friend get the car new? Like Celica said a pile of cars had the spring removed. The 13 I test drove before buying mine had the spring removed and it does indeed create a whole different feel. I would bet this is what the difference is.

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2672364)

He's talking about using trans fluid instead of brake fluid. It's feasible.

I sure hope not, considering that a cursory google indicates that transmission fluid will quickly ruin the seals in a system designed for brake fluid. Not sure if the 86 has a separate reservoir or not, so even worse if it mixes with your brakes.

So either this suggestion is going to be just ineffective, or it's going to be ineffective and dangerous. I know you're trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but either way, this has nothing to do with transmission fluid.

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2671956)

Would SFK have a tob that would fit but be a stronger alternative to oem? Unless it's silly to want an aftermarktet tob

Link to discussion about after market TOB.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=96644&page=11

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Originally Posted by Celica00 (Post 2671237)

Not 100% but I believe people refer to the ACT heavy duty TOB
http://www.advancedclutch.com/rb004

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2671633)

I suspect SFK supplies the oem tob because they look identical. Is there another one?

act

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Originally Posted by jwvand02 (Post 2672089)

Trans fluid doesn't come in contact with the clutch, at all.

ahh, shit my bad, I was skimming over the OP and saw "throw" :lol: My after thought is cluch wear & tear.

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2672610)

ahh, shit my bad, I was skimming over the OP and saw "throw" :lol: My after thought is cluch wear & tear.

That's it. Next time I'm throwing you to the wolves.

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2672640)

That's it. Next time I'm throwing you to the wolves.

Oh yes please, I'll take Sansa Stark anyday.

wtf did she write in that note?! #derailed

Perhaps the lubrication on yours is still fresh?