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venturaII 05-31-2016 10:23 AM

I've never bought from Godspeed before so I have nothing firsthand to base this on, but going from feedback on other forums, it seems like everyone is really overestimating the capacity for failure for these parts. Maybe a hole is tighter than it should be; bfd - I have drills. And I've had to do the same thing with parts from Koni, Bilstein, Neuspeed, Tectonics, Eibach, etc. If the bar is bent wrong, I simply send it back for either replacement or refund, using the OEM one as proof. Case closed. Material choice is another potential issue, but if it's chromoly like they claim it is, I'm not too worried. This forum has some real issues with certain brands for no apparent good reason, simply based on internet folklore. Spinning Sushi is the only one who seems to have any experience at all with them, and even his reported issues are rather strange sounding. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, maybe not. It's just $120 bucks - maybe I should've bought something totally useless like JDM exhaust tips..? lol

fumanchu1 05-31-2016 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by solidONE (Post 2666347)
Do you consider Mugen or Tomei stuff "hit and miss?" Take a guess what country much of their stuff is made.

I'm not sure where godspeed has their stuff made, or what material they use. Although I know that most reputable brands use chromoly for sway bars which has higher tensile and yield strength than your lower grade steels that may bend without springing back to shape. I dont think godspeed uses chromoly steel.

what I meant with basic Taiwan stuff was generic low quality control stuff. If you think the facility that produces runs for tomei runs the same QC as one doing it for generic ebay brand #5124 then you are mistaken. That's what I meant with basic Taiwan shit, not that anything made there is shit :)


hopefully it is clearer now.

Spinning Sushi 06-02-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2666264)
Was there a curb involved...? lol I've never seen a swaybar bend from normal use...

Mine was from a pot hole and my old replica wheels didn't bend but the sway bar did.

Shankenstein 06-02-2016 05:21 PM

If you are willing to sacrifice significant quality in design, materials, and tolerances... in favor of 50% off pricing, Godspeed does make functional parts.

Just understand that there is value in certified materials, weld/finish quality, engineer effort (FEA, material selection, design for 6-sigma, packaging, etc), and technician effort (fair wages/hours, quality control, hazardous materials and work environments).

I've seen plenty of their parts in-person, and it's hit-and-miss. I'd rather support companies that invest in quality (as mentioned in my signature). You don't always need Raceseng & Penske parts... but guys like Grimmspeed make cost-effective and quality parts.

In the sway bar market, I'm a fanboy for Eibach, RCE, Whiteline, Cusco, Perrin, Hotchkis, Strano, and TRD. Among them, you should be able to find something that fits your goals.

venturaII 06-02-2016 09:11 PM

Well, none of the brands I usually use (see prior list) can offer even a single bar for the delivered price of this set. They are the exact size I want, and they're so stupid-low in price that even if they lose their temper after a year or whatever, I'm still only out 120 bucks. Like I said earlier, you can't even by a set of flipping exhaust tips for that. If that does happen (which I think is probably pretty weak odds...), then I just buy a better set in the same size (18/22) and chalk it up. I'm not a Saudi Prince, but at the same time, 120 dollars isn't going to force me into bankruptcy. And that's even if the company doesn't warranty them.

venturaII 06-02-2016 09:12 PM

And besides, they've already shipped and should be here in a few days...lol.

venturaII 06-02-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinning Sushi (Post 2669117)
Mine was from a pot hole and my old replica wheels didn't bend but the sway bar did.


So you're saying a pothole big enough to cycle your suspension through it's entire stroke but not even bend a wheel, let alone damage something else, is what bent the bar? That's pretty incredible, if so.

venturaII 06-02-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shankenstein (Post 2669250)
If you are willing to sacrifice significant quality in design, materials, and tolerances... in favor of 50% off pricing, Godspeed does make functional parts.

Just understand that there is value in certified materials, weld/finish quality, engineer effort (FEA, material selection, design for 6-sigma, packaging, etc), and technician effort (fair wages/hours, quality control, hazardous materials and work environments).

I've seen plenty of their parts in-person, and it's hit-and-miss. I'd rather support companies that invest in quality (as mentioned in my signature). You don't always need Raceseng & Penske parts... but guys like Grimmspeed make cost-effective and quality parts.

In the sway bar market, I'm a fanboy for Eibach, RCE, Whiteline, Cusco, Perrin, Hotchkis, Strano, and TRD. Among them, you should be able to find something that fits your goals.



Keep in mind, this is a sway bar, not a supercharger kit, not a dyno tested set of headers, not a track-tuned set of shocks...they're a pair of bent metal rods that are even likely copies of another brand. Assuming the material used is adequate (and it IS chromoly), it's pretty goddamned difficult to fuck up a swaybar; you literally need to make sure it's bent right , the two holes are drilled reasonable accurately, and the paint doesn't fall off. Maybe they ARE made of butter; I just think the odds are that they aren't. We'll find out shortly!

swarb 06-02-2016 10:05 PM

It's a solid bar. I wouldn't worry. I would have gotten a used sti rear bar to save some money.

Please update us with a review on the fit/performance when you get the chance.

Racecomp Engineering 06-03-2016 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2669451)
Keep in mind, this is a sway bar, not a supercharger kit, not a dyno tested set of headers, not a track-tuned set of shocks...they're a pair of bent metal rods that are even likely copies of another brand. Assuming the material used is adequate (and it IS chromoly), it's pretty goddamned difficult to fuck up a swaybar; you literally need to make sure it's bent right , the two holes are drilled reasonable accurately, and the paint doesn't fall off. Maybe they ARE made of butter; I just think the odds are that they aren't. We'll find out shortly!

I have seen all of those things gone wrong on swaybars from multiple brands over the last 12 years. :lol:

No first hand experience with Godspeed, though. Good luck.

- Andrew

venturaII 06-03-2016 12:24 PM

Well, they're s'posed to show up on Tuesday, so we'll see how bad they are. lol

Cole 06-03-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2669975)
Well, they're s'posed to show up on Tuesday, so we'll see how bad they are. lol

I don't have their sway bars. But I did have a set of their coil overs. They worked well enough for what I bought them for. Which was slamming the car and driving around on the streets. They were fairly comfortable, and honestly, I thought they did better than the set of FA500's I replaced them with, in terms of comfort at least.

Would I buy those coils again? Maybe, but at the same-ish price point, there are still tons of other options from more reputable companies. So, of course my situation is/was a bit different from yours. However, the coils seemed like a quality piece, and now having first hand experience with the company, I'd be comfortable buying from them again.

Shady195 06-03-2016 04:36 PM

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I run a godspeed 18mm rear swaybar. Finish isn't great, welds are decent and there was a piece of welding rod protruding from one of the welds on the centering ring. However it seems to do its job just fine without any issues. Made a positive difference for my purposes when drifting.

Spinning Sushi 06-04-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by venturaII (Post 2669445)
So you're saying a pothole big enough to cycle your suspension through it's entire stroke but not even bend a wheel, let alone damage something else, is what bent the bar? That's pretty incredible, if so.

I know it sounds hard to believe but all the conditions were met and it bent the bar


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