Pedal dance
 

Hello fellow fr-s owners,

I am going to attend my first drift event at ste-croix riverside speedway (Québec,Canada) this sunday. I was planing on doing the traction control twist where I press the VSC sport button, then the traction control button for 5 seconds and was hoping it was enough to let it slide without having issues.

My first question is: by not doing the pedal dance, would I still be able to drift the car for several turns without issues while being on full throttle (traction control slight cut on power while drifting).

My second question is: does the pedal dance affect the warranty in any way?

I understand that in an instance where the car would have an engine failure on track, the dealership could check the ECU entry and see that the pedal dance sequence enabled all traction control to be off.

I'm asking this question because I would like to drift the car while still being able to have a backup for common issues like chirping noises, buggy idle and transmission issues. Thank you!!

My first question is: by not doing the pedal dance, would I still be able to drift the car for several turns without issues while being on full throttle (traction control slight cut on power while drifting).

It's going to be actively changing brake bias and kicking in still even with everything on, this is denoted by the slip light in the tachometer, just do the pedal dance it makes everything easier. I noticed playing around in rainy parking lots and snow is that the car becomes way easier to control and doesn't spin out as much as before.


My second question is: does the pedal dance affect the warranty in any way?

It's a diagnostic mode it's not recorded anywhere in the ecu, in fact nothing really is stored in the ecu for dealer techs using tech stream to really void your warranty with except ecu codes and basic canbus communication info. I know this because I used techstreams full version on this car for quite some time

I understand that in an instance where the car would have an engine failure on track, the dealership could check the ECU entry and see that the pedal dance sequence enabled all traction control to be off
I'm asking this question because I would like to drift the car while still being able to have a backup for common issues like chirping noises, buggy idle and transmission issues.


Assume the dealership can just lookup your vin on the internet and find you on a race roster and void the car and in that scenario you have to pay. Do you have enough money to pay for a repair out of pocket? If yes go ahead and track it. If Not, don't because you pay to play

Thanks for the quick response!

On the subject of my first question, I meant that I would disengage the vsc by pressing the traction control button for 5 seconds. Would it still brake on me, cut power to the engine and so on as if I would keep the traction control on?

On the subject of my second question, I understand that the dealership won't be able to detect any entry if I wish to disengage everything.

Last, having what you said in mind, I might just wait a bit before going all out drifting. Feels kinda risky going drifting where it pushes the car to its limit if it might void its warranty. It's only my 1st month with it, changes can be a little rougher on the wallet.

I think by holding down the traction control for 5 seconds, it will no longer cut power to the engine when you start to lose some traction, im not sure but i believe vsc sport allows for the same thing but still keeps stability on? I noticed yesterday when I almost got rear ended in traffic. It was raining and had to cut across a few lanes fast and as soon as my tires started to slide it cut all power until traction completely returned. In most events I would be happy traction control kicked in for daily driving, but when people are coming up on your rear end at 60+ last thing I wanted was to have no power. Maybe it was just me but after i realized that when i left the store I put it into sport mode and it let the rear slide. I drive an automatic though, so I don't know if you even have a sport vsc mode. But as far as i know with traction control off you can spin as much as you want granted your tires don't grab.

5 second hold will let you spin out just fine... trust me, I have a nice cone-shaped dent from a spin at an AutoX!

That said, with or without pedal dance, you're still going to get EBD and ABS may cause you some troubles if you're really pushing things. I still suggest you experiment with pedal dance - it does seem to be easier to trigger ice mode, which definitely won't make drifting easy. Not everyone seems to run into this as consistently, and other things are oh so much better. The 86Nanny with ABS disable was first made to solve issues for drifters - if you're going to do this enough it may be a worthwhile investment.

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Thanks for the response guys!

I think what I'll do for my first drift event, which definitely won't be this sunday, more to be 12 june of this year, I'll try to disengage de traction control see what it gives. Then I'll try the pedal dance!

Good plan. No need to rush into anything and always good to be able to feel changes out for educational purposes. Down the road as @cjd stated, with drifting you'll want to disable ABS. Reason being is while pedal dance will help majorly compared to what you have available via the interior buttons, ABS will end your drift pre-maturely.

Short write up on the topic: http://www.beastronix.com/tips/disab...-and-ice-mode/