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Mishimoto 05-10-2016 02:31 PM

Mishimoto Coolant Overflow Tank R&D
 
Tanks, But No Tanks – 2013+ Subaru BRZ / Toyota FR-S Overflow Tank, Part 1: OEM Review and 3D Models

I have been a big fan of Subaru vehicles for a substantial part of my life, and I have lots of experience with WRXs, but the BRZ (and FR-S) is still very new to me. Not too long ago, one of our engineers had his 2013 Subaru BRZ out in the parking lot, and I asked him to pop the hood so that I might check out the power plant. Have you ever seen an old episode of Scooby-Doo when Shaggy opens a door and jumps about a mile in the air, screaming, having revealed the spooky ghost residing therein? Well, you can call me Shaggy, and here is the ghost:

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

Like, zoinks! Look at all that hideous white plastic – nobody wants a haunted Toyobaru, but how on earth would one solve this problem? Who ya gonna call?

Mishimoto!

Overflow Tank Functionality

Our ghostbusters engineers are already chugging right along in the development of an awesome new overflow tank for the 2013+ FR-S/BRZ. An overflow tank is an important part of a car’s cooling system; it serves to receive and store coolant that is purged from the radiator in high-pressure situations. An overflow tank, unlike an expansion tank, is not pressurized and contains a vacuum line through which coolant is drawn back into the system when needed. An expansion tank is part of a sealed, pressurized system that allows the radiator to purge coolant when it is overly hot and expansive, and to draw it back in when the system cools to a sufficient degree. It does this by utilizing the pressure differential that varies with temperature to create a vacuum condition due to air that is part of the system; another important distinction is that coolant does not have to purge through a pressure cap before entering the tank because it is a pressurized component in the system.

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

As you can see, the OEM unit is a bulbous hunk of white plastic (although this one is sporting a snazzy Mishimoto silicone coolant line – part of our BRZ/FR-S Radiator Hose Kit). Our Mishimoto tank replacement will be an attractive aluminum piece, and it will hold a larger volume of coolant than the OEM unit. We have already modeled the piece and recently 3D printed it to check fitment.

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

In order to test fit, we needed first to remove that OEM poltergeist.

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

After the exorcism was complete, we made quick work of throwing in our prototype.

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

The tank fit well and looks markedly better than the OEM unit! Check out a photo of the two pieces side by side for a more direct comparison.

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BRZ Parts (or FR-S Parts)

Definitely an improvement, and it will look even better in aluminum!

Coming Soon – Renderings

This project is well underway, and we will have some cool renderings to present in the not-too-distant future. Check back for more details on this project, and enjoy your cars as the summer weather starts to creep in!

Read more about our R&D processes on our engineering blog!

Thanks for reading,

-Gardiner

ATL BRZ 05-10-2016 02:42 PM

Will this product have more coolant overflow capacity for when your Mishimoto thermostat fails and gets stuck closed?

If not, I think I may just stick with the stock unit, just like I should've done with my thermostat.

boredom.is.me 05-10-2016 02:55 PM

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This is pretty much a useless part. At least make it look good.

Mishimoto 05-11-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2648461)
Will this product have more coolant overflow capacity for when your Mishimoto thermostat fails and gets stuck closed?

If not, I think I may just stick with the stock unit, just like I should've done with my thermostat.

Hey ATL,

Our tank will indeed hold a larger volume of coolant than OEM!

I'm very sorry to hear about your troubles with our thermostat, and I'd be happy to put you in contact with someone on our support team if you would like to follow up on the issue further - as you may know, we provide a lifetime warranty with every product we sell. I know my coworker had reached out to you on here previously, but PM me if you want to discuss further and I'd be happy to work things out with you.

That said, we'd love to hear some feedback on our overflow tank. I've been a Subaru guy for a while, and the engineer on the project drives a BRZ. We are both excited to be working on this project, and I'd love to get some input from a fellow enthusiast like yourself!

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 2648479)
This is pretty much a useless part. At least make it look good.

Boredom,

This part will be functional in that it will have increased coolant capacity as compared to OEM, but the primary benefit to this (and most aftermarket expansion or overflow tanks) is aesthetic! I anticipate this being a really nice-looking aluminum piece, and we will hopefully have some good renderings to post in the not-too-distant future. Thanks for your feedback!

Thanks everybody, and keep the questions coming.
-Gardiner

continuecrushing 05-11-2016 12:31 PM

looking forward to seeing this in the shop!

zeal86 05-11-2016 01:05 PM

This tank is going to look damn good in my engine bay!

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Cockatoo 05-11-2016 01:20 PM

I was about to say.. this has @zeal86 written all over it ;)

Roadcone 05-11-2016 01:26 PM

When did Lego buy out Mishimoto?

boredom.is.me 05-11-2016 01:40 PM

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FRSBRZGT86FAN 05-11-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2648461)
Will this product have more coolant overflow capacity for when your Mishimoto thermostat fails and gets stuck closed?

If not, I think I may just stick with the stock unit, just like I should've done with my thermostat.

It will probably leak and then take 100s of emails and a forum post to finally get them to warranty it.

NyC Zn6 05-11-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zeal86 (Post 2649495)
This tank is going to look damn good in my engine bay!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...%20Bay0101.jpg


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showoff :bow:

Mishimoto 05-11-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 2649437)
looking forward to seeing this in the shop!

Excellent! I'll keep you posted on our progress.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeal86 (Post 2649495)
This tank is going to look damn good in my engine bay!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...%20Bay0101.jpg


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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2649515)
I was about to say.. this has @zeal86 written all over it ;)

That engine bay, though....:clap:. The tank will be right at home!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcone (Post 2649529)
When did Lego buy out Mishimoto?

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Originally Posted by boredom.is.me (Post 2649551)
A friend sent me a similar version to what he was working.

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Very impressed with the amount of work you put into this recreation! You ought to save the design in case Lego/Technic comes out with a Toyobaru kit anytime soon. They've been known to have a bit of a thing for horizontally opposed motors...

http://www.topgear.com/sites/default...?itok=botGCj9r

:thumbup:

- Gardiner

zeal86 06-07-2016 10:22 PM

Gardiner... any updates to report?

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Mishimoto 06-09-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zeal86 (Post 2674023)
Gardiner... any updates to report?

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Hopefully should have some pretty soon! I'll keep you all posted, don't worry. Your car looks awesome, by the way. Really coming together nicely.


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