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In this case, a stiffer front setting induces more oversteer on corner exit and a softer rear induces corner entry oversteer. reason for edit: typo |
wait, diff fluid causes oversteer? well I'll be damned :bonk:
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Why do drifters lock their axles together? Why do McLaren and lotus resist using mechanical diffs? Why can't forum contributors answer honest questions or just stay out of the thread?
Yes my car was aligned by a professional shop, and I have the final readouts. OE tires. I chose FRS rear springs in an attempt to balance the car. Same for the alignment specs. I just have trouble believing the changes I made moved the grip so far forward. |
I count three changes you made that would contribute to more oversteer.
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First try playing with damper settings since it's free. Here's a flow chart for dealing with oversteer (keeping in mind that Koni single adjustables appear to alter rebound only): https://robrobinette.com/images/S200...steerFixes.jpg If that doesn't solve your issue, try adding slight rear toe-in (and/or more rear camber). Alignments are relatively cheap. And if that fails, try an adjustable front sway bar. One thing to keep in mind is that if you change to track tires, your opinion on the car's balance might change as well. |
I feel like flaming someone , but i dont want a temp ban. So I'll keep my mouth shut.
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My alignment with the set up (apporx with camber bolts and rear lower control arms): -3 camber 0 toe front -2.5 camber 1/16" toe rear |
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Why do drifters lock their axles together? Because drifters care very little about handling, they want both wheels locked together so they spin at the same time and at the same speed. Alternatively they may go for 2 way LSDs Come on dude, you're pushing it, in what world would the Diff fluid effect over-steer on this car? have you owned other cars that induced over-steer because of the fluid? What led you to that conclusion? Also your mclaren and lotus examples don't even apply here McLaren P1: They use frictional balancing with brakes/electric motors so they don't need an LSD system as they can be more precise without it. Mclaren MP4,670s, 570 etc: Use brakes on the inner wheels at times moments, also the suspension is adjusted on the fly, they also have NO sway bars everything is connected electronically or hydraulically and adjusted in split second intervals (this is in the P1 as well) For the lotus: A limited slip differential matters more in wider, heavier cars than it does in narrow lightweight cars, FYI, because the different radius paths of travel are smaller, and the distribution of weight left-right during a corner is smaller as well. They are famous for saying it here: http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f25/...06/#post552007 |
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I will definitely experiment with the damper settings. I have been adding "stiffness" to the front to get traction at the rear, but now I see I've been going at it backwards! I'm also due for tires, so I'll try something stickier. The extra roll will get me some camber at the back which should help. |
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Your alignment is more aggressive than mine, but you don't seem to be having any trouble. What tires are you running? |
LOL changes springs and doesn't understand that it will affect handling characteristics.
Your brain fluid needs to be changed. Look, from the fact that you know the FRS springs are stiffer and you changed them on the rear it should be no surprise to you that it would induce oversteer. Why would you even think that its related to the fluid ? |
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I have no problems with oversteer on my car, and my alignment is F -3.6 camber, 0 toe R -2.7 camber, 1/16" toe in -alex |
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