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VerusEric 09-20-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris86 (Post 2756379)
when will these be back in stock?


I check ft86speedfactory and it says back ordered

FT-86 SpeedFactory should be receiving them in the next day or so. We have some on the shelf as well.

These come with a nice black oxide coating now. Pictures are below. This coating serves the same purpose as powder coat, corrosion resistance. Going this route reduces our lead time for a final product to keep it on the shelf more readily.

http://i.imgur.com/8ZmWYKv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lfIlQhx.jpg

Thanks,
Eric

FRS Johnny 10-04-2016 09:18 PM

So if I'm on the freeway above 60mph and I down shift from 6 to 5, 5th will grind. Do you guys think this clutch fork will solve the issue?

churchx 10-04-2016 09:51 PM

If all the other gear changes are fine, imho problem is not clutch related, but rather worn synchros of that gear.

VerusEric 10-04-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768115)
So if I'm on the freeway above 60mph and I down shift from 6 to 5, 5th will grind. Do you guys think this clutch fork will solve the issue?

What @churchx said. This does not sound like a problem that can be fixed with a clutch fork.

Thanks,
Eric

Drakiv 10-04-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768115)
So if I'm on the freeway above 60mph and I down shift from 6 to 5, 5th will grind. Do you guys think this clutch fork will solve the issue?



Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say without knowing anything else. But I have been running it on a stock clutch and it has been nothing short of amazing in feel. I have a lot of other transmission work as well, but I can definitely tell the difference with this fork in the pedal feel.

FRS Johnny 10-05-2016 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2768148)
What @churchx said. This does not sound like a problem that can be fixed with a clutch fork.

Thanks,
Eric

You think there are any solutions to this? Maybe a different fluid? I'm using motul already... Should I invest in another transmission just in case?

Ashikabi 10-05-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768286)
You think there are any solutions to this? Maybe a different fluid? I'm using motul already... Should I invest in another transmission just in case?

I'm in a similar boat but with 1-2. Haven't had it happen inner normal acceleration in a long time but at higher RPMs it will do it once in a while. At first I thought I just fucked up my shift but I'm positive it's not me now

VerusEric 10-05-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768286)
You think there are any solutions to this? Maybe a different fluid? I'm using motul already... Should I invest in another transmission just in case?

You can definitely try a different fluid. I have a similar crunch (doesn't grind yet, just is uncomfortable) going from 6th to 5th at anything about 75 MPH. I'm on Neo 75w-90. I kind of wanted to try Valvoline 75w-90 next, I had good luck with that in my MR2 Turbo for higher RPM "crunches".

If you do purchase another transmission, I'd be willing to go through your trans for a very reasonable price to try and learn what is going wrong with 5th gear synchro. I plan to do this to my trans when I install our stronger straight cut gearset.

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2768380)
I'm in a similar boat but with 1-2. Haven't had it happen inner normal acceleration in a long time but at higher RPMs it will do it once in a while. At first I thought I just fucked up my shift but I'm positive it's not me now

Ensure you're using quality fluid and that the shift gate to reverse isn't causing a slight misalignment.

Thanks,
Eric

Ashikabi 10-05-2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2768466)
You can definitely try a different fluid. I have a similar crunch (doesn't grind yet, just is uncomfortable) going from 6th to 5th at anything about 75 MPH. I'm on Neo 75w-90. I kind of wanted to try Valvoline 75w-90 next, I had good luck with that in my MR2 Turbo for higher RPM "crunches".

If you do purchase another transmission, I'd be willing to go through your trans for a very reasonable price to try and learn what is going wrong with 5th gear synchro. I plan to do this to my trans when I install our stronger straight cut gearset.



Ensure you're using quality fluid and that the shift gate to reverse isn't causing a slight misalignment.

Thanks,
Eric

I've been using Amsoil. How do I check the reverse gate?

Calum 10-05-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakiv (Post 2768152)
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say without knowing anything else. But I have been running it on a stock clutch and it has been nothing short of amazing in feel. I have a lot of other transmission work as well, but I can definitely tell the difference with this fork in the pedal feel.



What else do you have done?

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768286)
You think there are any solutions to this? Maybe a different fluid? I'm using motul already... Should I invest in another transmission just in case?


I ran Motul for about a week before I dumped it. I'm guessing that fluid is great in a hot climate, but up here, even in near summer it was atrocious. Now I'm on a mixture of two Redline fluids (MT85 & 90) and it's working flawlessly.

Calum 10-05-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakiv (Post 2768152)
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to say without knowing anything else. But I have been running it on a stock clutch and it has been nothing short of amazing in feel. I have a lot of other transmission work as well, but I can definitely tell the difference with this fork in the pedal feel.



What else do you have done?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768286)
You think there are any solutions to this? Maybe a different fluid? I'm using motul already... Should I invest in another transmission just in case?


I ran Motul for about a week before I dumped it. I'm guessing that fluid is great in a hot climate, but up here it was atrocious. Now I'm on a mixture of two Redline fluids MT85 & 90. We went with the mixture after looking at the specs for the factory specs, and the Motul stuff. We were aiming for a low temp viscosity that was just a little less than factory, to help with the cold weather operation. I haven't had any troubles with shifting in anything from 5 degrees to 40.

FRS Johnny 10-05-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2768466)
You can definitely try a different fluid. I have a similar crunch (doesn't grind yet, just is uncomfortable) going from 6th to 5th at anything about 75 MPH. I'm on Neo 75w-90. I kind of wanted to try Valvoline 75w-90 next, I had good luck with that in my MR2 Turbo for higher RPM "crunches".

If you do purchase another transmission, I'd be willing to go through your trans for a very reasonable price to try and learn what is going wrong with 5th gear synchro. I plan to do this to my trans when I install our stronger straight cut gearset.



Ensure you're using quality fluid and that the shift gate to reverse isn't causing a slight misalignment.

Thanks,
Eric

Yeah I wanted to open it up when I build the trans! It's annoying that this car as so many problems after boost. Might need those gears sooner! haha

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2768475)
What else do you have done?




I ran Motul for about a week before I dumped it. I'm guessing that fluid is great in a hot climate, but up here it was atrocious. Now I'm on a mixture of two Redline fluids MT85 & 90. We went with the mixture after looking at the specs for the factory specs, and the Motul stuff. We were aiming for a low temp viscosity that was just a little less than factory, to help with the cold weather operation. I haven't had any troubles with shifting in anything from 5 degrees to 40.

Good to know! Yeah I might try another fluid this week and see how it goes. Hopefully it helps because I like my 5th gear on the freeway!

VerusEric 10-05-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768579)
Yeah I wanted to open it up when I build the trans! It's annoying that this car as so many problems after boost. Might need those gears sooner! haha

It's expected in my opinion. We're doubling the power these cars have from the factory, and tripling even.

Well, I'm located in Phoenix. Orange County isn't terribly far, we could tear it apart together in a day easily. PM me if interested. I has beer :cheers: .

Thanks,
Eric

Ashikabi 10-05-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768579)
Yeah I wanted to open it up when I build the trans! It's annoying that this car as so many problems after boost. Might need those gears sooner! haha



Good to know! Yeah I might try another fluid this week and see how it goes. Hopefully it helps because I like my 5th gear on the freeway!

Just use 4th

FRS Johnny 10-05-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2768634)
Just use 4th

if youre going 80 and go down to 4th. You run out of revs quick after boosting a bit..

Ashikabi 10-05-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768652)
if youre going 80 and go down to 4th. You run out of revs quick after boosting a bit..

Should you be passing someone if you are already going 80?

Calum 10-05-2016 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FRS Johnny (Post 2768579)
Good to know! Yeah I might try another fluid this week and see how it goes. Hopefully it helps because I like my 5th gear on the freeway!

Just don't blame me if it doesn't help. :) I agree with the others, that a clunky 5th isn't a likely indication of fluid being the problem. That said, a different fluid might be able to mask the problem, and extend the life of the wearing part.

FRS Johnny 10-05-2016 06:04 PM

Anyone use syncromesh before? Friend said to try it out. I remember that I'm using amsoil right now, and never really had a problem with motul before.

johan 10-05-2016 06:06 PM

I'm still a big fan of Honda green label MTF. It was designed for transmissions like ours that contain yellow metals. I used it exclusively in my old 400hp Hondas, and it's the OEM spec'd fluid for the S2000. It's not too expensive, I'd just change it with every other oil change and it kept the tranny shifting super smooth.

Fenix 10-05-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2768468)
I've been using Amsoil. How do I check the reverse gate?

I have an issue with both fourth and fifth grinding as well. My engine is stock. I too changed the fluid to Amsoil. I will ask the dealer about it under the manufacture warranty when they swap my side glass. I had minor issues from the beginning. One of the reasons why I haven't boosted yet is trying to figure out what to do with the gearbox first.
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Calum 10-05-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenix (Post 2768879)
I have an issue with both fourth and fifth grinding as well. My engine is stock. I too changed the fluid to Amsoil. I will ask the dealer about it under the manufacture warranty when they swap my side glass. I had minor issues from the beginning. One of the reasons why I haven't boosted yet is trying to figure out what to do with the gearbox first.
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Just don't tell the dealer about the different fluid.

Fenix 10-05-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2768975)
Just don't tell the dealer about the different fluid.

I don't intend to. ;)

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Drakiv 10-06-2016 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2768474)
What else do you have done?




I ran Motul for about a week before I dumped it. I'm guessing that fluid is great in a hot climate, but up here, even in near summer it was atrocious. Now I'm on a mixture of two Redline fluids (MT85 & 90) and it's working flawlessly.

I have a PAR gearset installed with a solid transmission mount and a carbon fiber driveshaft. Also had my synchros timed and blueprinted. I ran Motul for about 1,000 miles on the gearset and then switched over to neo synthetic RHD.

DIE1000DEATHS 10-09-2016 12:24 AM

I'm having an issue where it seems as when my trans heats up a bit (say, sitting in traffic for a while, or a lot of stop and go city traffic) I have a hard time getting into 1st or reverse. No issues when the car is cold or it's a normal casual driving day. Could it be that these forks get soft when really hot, and I'm getting some flex? Or perhaps a diff fluid like other may be getting recommended for other issues. I do have a new ACT XT clutch, but it happened before this as well.

SoCalArgento 10-09-2016 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DIE1000DEATHS (Post 2770862)
I'm having an issue where it seems as when my trans heats up a bit (say, sitting in traffic for a while, or a lot of stop and go city traffic) I have a hard time getting into 1st or reverse. No issues when the car is cold or it's a normal casual driving day. Could it be that these forks get soft when really hot, and I'm getting some flex? Or perhaps a diff fluid like other may be getting recommended for other issues. I do have a new ACT XT clutch, but it happened before this as well.



I have the ACT HD clutch and LWFW with same identical issue. It occurs when in hot weather, hard driving, or just from driving car for a while. I have clutch fork waiting to install hoping that it will solve this issue.


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Ashikabi 10-09-2016 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIE1000DEATHS (Post 2770862)
I'm having an issue where it seems as when my trans heats up a bit (say, sitting in traffic for a while, or a lot of stop and go city traffic) I have a hard time getting into 1st or reverse. No issues when the car is cold or it's a normal casual driving day. Could it be that these forks get soft when really hot, and I'm getting some flex? Or perhaps a diff fluid like other may be getting recommended for other issues. I do have a new ACT XT clutch, but it happened before this as well.

I doubt the get in the fork is affecting anything. Maybe the clutch fluid itself

VerusEric 10-09-2016 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIE1000DEATHS (Post 2770862)
I'm having an issue where it seems as when my trans heats up a bit (say, sitting in traffic for a while, or a lot of stop and go city traffic) I have a hard time getting into 1st or reverse. No issues when the car is cold or it's a normal casual driving day. Could it be that these forks get soft when really hot, and I'm getting some flex? Or perhaps a diff fluid like other may be getting recommended for other issues. I do have a new ACT XT clutch, but it happened before this as well.

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Originally Posted by SoCalArgento (Post 2770881)
I have the ACT HD clutch and LWFW with same identical issue. It occurs when in hot weather, hard driving, or just from driving car for a while. I have clutch fork waiting to install hoping that it will solve this issue.

Sounds more like a fluid issue to me as well; but, I've also heard of the XTs having issues with engagement on the stock fork. My engagement point is right around OEM, if yours is lower, I would suspect you may have some bending of the fork.

I have the ACT XT clutch with the lightweight flywheel and full face disc. Honestly, I've been pleasantly surprised with how driveable it is. The noise is pretty rough, sounds like a twin disc. I have about 4k miles at 300+rwhp on our billet fork on this setup and (knock on wood) engagement has been superb!

Thanks,
Eric

SoCalArgento 10-09-2016 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2770932)
Sounds more like a fluid issue to me as well; but, I've also heard of the XTs having issues with engagement on the stock fork. My engagement point is right around OEM, if yours is lower, I would suspect you may have some bending of the fork.



I have the ACT XT clutch with the lightweight flywheel and full face disc. Honestly, I've been pleasantly surprised with how driveable it is. The noise is pretty rough, sounds like a twin disc. I have about 4k miles at 300+rwhp on our billet fork on this setup and (knock on wood) engagement has been superb!



Thanks,

Eric



Well I already bought fork and pivot just to eliminate that as possible cause, would you recommend adjusting engagement point and clutch fluid would fix?


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VerusEric 10-09-2016 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalArgento (Post 2770938)
Well I already bought fork and pivot just to eliminate that as possible cause, would you recommend adjusting engagement point and clutch fluid would fix?


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I have no idea, to be honest. I'm truly guessing, going off of it only happening when the car is hot. However, that could very well be the steel becoming slightly more malleable at that temperature and bending... or it could be transmission fluid related, or a synchro wearing down, or clutch fluid getting a bit hot and is old.

The only thing I currently know for certain is that the factory FRS/BRZ clutch forks are a known issue with pretty much ANY aftermaket, stronger than factory, pressure plate/clutch kit. It is my opinion that anyone considering an aftermarket clutch should automatically consider/install a stronger clutch fork as well. It is cheap insurance in the overall scheme of things.

Thanks,
Eric

DIE1000DEATHS 10-09-2016 04:28 PM

I'll likely try the fork/pivot ball just because... I've already swapped the clutch fluid out and added a stainless line to that. Might as well try a different trans fluid too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2770940)
I have no idea, to be honest. I'm truly guessing, going off of it only happening when the car is hot. However, that could very well be the steel becoming slightly more malleable at that temperature and bending... or it could be transmission fluid related, or a synchro wearing down, or clutch fluid getting a bit hot and is old.

The only thing I currently know for certain is that the factory FRS/BRZ clutch forks are a known issue with pretty much ANY aftermaket, stronger than factory, pressure plate/clutch kit. It is my opinion that anyone considering an aftermarket clutch should automatically consider/install a stronger clutch fork as well. It is cheap insurance in the overall scheme of things.

Thanks,
Eric


Dipstik-sportech 10-09-2016 11:09 PM

I've been running an fx400+ for 3yrs now. Maybe I should check to see if my fork is bent because I've had nothing but issues with engagement being different each time and unpredictable. Btw still waiting for that sexy intake manifold

VerusEric 10-10-2016 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 2771220)
I've been running an fx400+ for 3yrs now. Maybe I should check to see if my fork is bent because I've had nothing but issues with engagement being different each time and unpredictable. Btw still waiting for that sexy intake manifold

I have had a customer that had an FX400 (maybe 500?) that got to the point that he couldn't disengage the clutch at all. He adjusted his clutch multiple times and maxed out available travel, still couldn't get the car in first or reverse (or any gear) while stopped.

Our clutch fork fixed his issues and is working great to this day. The clutch pedal required adjusting as well because the engagement point drastically changed and went back to an OEM like engagement point. He was one of the first people to try it.

Thanks,
Eric

Hawk77FT 10-30-2016 08:11 PM

I had the clutch fork installed the other day. I can tell there is some difference in the feel when changing gears at low speeds but feels a lot stronger under heavy driving. Really happy with it.

The Racers Line 11-08-2016 02:25 PM

I have installed a few of these....

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...psg8vuajh6.jpg

All I can say now, is I try to keep these in stock if I can! If your transmission comes out for any reason, put a Velox clutch fork in, and save yourself a lot of headaches.

Very recently I had a customer come in to have his clutch replaced with an ACT SB7-XTSS, and Velox Clutch fork. At the same time, I had a customers car sitting in the shop with an ACT SB7-XTSS already installed, but without the Velox clutch fork(it is actually here getting one installed along with a new TOB) It was a MASSIVE difference in pedal feel and modulation. The Velox-fork-equipped car's, clutch pedal, felt about “10lbs” lighter to push vs. the car without the fork. It was great to have two cars side by side to compare like that, and really just confirms how big of a difference it makes.

VerusEric 11-14-2016 12:57 PM

After being out of stock for a bit, both Velox and FT86 SpeedFactory has units back in stock! Thanks for your patience!

Kris86 11-14-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VeloxEric (Post 2796159)
After being out of stock for a bit, both Velox and FT86 SpeedFactory has units back in stock! Thanks for your patience!



I got my velox clutch fork and pivot about a week and a half ago! Thanks for taking the time to make these :)




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VerusEric 11-26-2016 10:41 AM

Sharing for anyone interested, 25% off until the end of Cyber Monday!

https://www.facebook.com/veloxmotors...type=3&theater

Thanks,
Eric

VerusEric 12-01-2016 02:51 PM

I've been asked multiple times in the past few days about pivot points but we just ran out of pivot points a week or so ago. FT86 SpeedFactory has some in stock I believe and we will have them back in stock in another 2 weeks.

Thanks everyone!
Eric

VerusEric 12-21-2016 12:30 PM

We have added a testimonial section to our webpage!
http://www.velox-motorsports.com/pro...6-255e8d8eb622

For anyone wanting to be added, please message me with your testimonial!

Pivots and forks are in stock at both distributors and us currently :).

Thanks to everyone and have a great Holiday!
Eric

VerusEric 01-23-2017 03:33 PM

For those curious about the design process of the clutch forks, we have added a blog post. Pretty informative and neat (to me at least haha).

http://www.velox-motorsports.com/sin...Under-Pressure

Thanks,
Eric


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