Originally Posted by Ammunition (Post 2632866)

I was considering purchasing these same lug nuts, but it seemed that there were so many replica versions, or versions that were hard to identify - I wanted the black ones, which sometimes were shown with black writing on the side, or red, and most sites pictured one or the other (I ended up going with a different set, mostly for aesthetics.)

Was the seller a reputable vendor on the forum here? I feel like you should be safe if you bought them from a vendor here, or if you had a vendor order them for you directly; however, I know at least with their wheels, Rays is particular about how much a vendor is able to discount their product (for example, Varis supposedly doe not allow any discount or sale promotions to be applied to their products, in order to keep their product prestigious.)

Therefore, if you got them for significantly lower than the MSRP, or another price you couldn't refuse, that might raise a red flag.

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2629903)

@8R6 can you confirm?

And yea I didnt even notice that until you mentioned it.. I don't see those stamped markings on any of the pics of authentics.

Originally Posted by 8R6 (Post 2633092)

my friend's been out of the country for the past couple weeks and is coming back i think next week or so, so i wont be able to get a hold of him until then

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2633107)

Sorry @PandaSPUR. When the deal is too good to be true, it often is.

Let us know if you want the real deal.

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2633125)

Here's a small secret: Volk Racing doesn't make lug nuts.

-alex

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2633203)

They used to. They were rebranded to Rays later after the abundance of counterfeits labeled as Volk Racing. Wish I knew that before buying.

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2633214)

Here's another secret: Rays doesn't make their own lug nuts.

-alex

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2633214)

Here's another secret: Rays doesn't make their own lug nuts.

-alex

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2633237)

So when you go shopping for parts, you always search for the item based on the OEM? What should I look up when shopping for these RAYS Formula Lug Nuts?

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 2633242)

I doubt you'll find the OEM. Likely some factory in China

Originally Posted by CrazyWookiee (Post 2633249)

Sorry, These are definitely reps. :(

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2633237)

So when you go shopping for parts, you always search for the item based on the OEM? What should I look up when shopping for these RAYS Formula Lug Nuts?

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2633256)

That's not my point.

All I'm saying is that Rays doesn't make their own stuff.... don't be too fixated on a small thing on where the tapered cap doesn't look 100% exactly like others that are listed.

Rays doesn't even list these lugs on their Japan site anymore...

https://www.rayswheels.co.jp/product...ang=en&r=0&f=2

As for the question of whether your lugs are authentic or not, that I do not know. But it's very easy for the manufacturer of the lugs to modify a small element of them, and sell them to any number of 3rd party sellers to flood the marketplace. Don't get caught up in the details and don't feel bad or cheated when these small things catch up to you.

If they were cast wheels instead of forged TE37, fine. But lug nuts? You'll be okay.

-alex