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svnintl 04-06-2016 01:11 PM

Air Lift Suspension, able to raise stock height? Solutions to raising car?
 
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So My car has stock suspension, but I recently put on a NIA lip + custom on aerodynamics splitter and rocket bunny style side skirts. The front lip protrudes out and in addition adds 2-3'' with skits adding 2''.

For daily driving purposes, I want to be able to go up some of the steeper driveways, speed bumps, and even get my car on my local NTB car lift for maintenance. I was thinking of adding airlift suspension, but does anyone know if will that be able to raise my car from its current stock height or only drop it from stock height, and if so by how much could it raise it? Called the company but they said they only designed it to lower from stock height.

Another solution was get bigger rims? Or anyone have experience or good solutions?

NyC Zn6 04-06-2016 01:21 PM

http://www.stance-usa.com/main/produ...-system/...you can get something similar to aircups where you can raise the car.... It will lower back to the adjusted height as the coilovers.

Bluehwy 04-08-2016 04:56 AM

@svnintl the fronts will be able to go as high as stock but the rears will probably be about an inch lower than stock at max pressure. You won't be able to drive around at max pressure though. DM me if you want the exact measurements, I can take some measurements for you.


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Originally Posted by svnintl (Post 2612207)
So My car has stock suspension, but I recently put on a NIA lip + custom on aerodynamics splitter and rocket bunny style side skirts. The front lip protrudes out and in addition adds 2-3'' with skits adding 2''.

For daily driving purposes, I want to be able to go up some of the steeper driveways, speed bumps, and even get my car on my local NTB car lift for maintenance. I was thinking of adding airlift suspension, but does anyone know if will that be able to raise my car from its current stock height or only drop it from stock height, and if so by how much could it raise it? Called the company but they said they only designed it to lower from stock height.

Another solution was get bigger rims? Or anyone have experience or good solutions?


JazzleSAURUS 04-08-2016 12:16 PM

You could consider bags, with a 1" lift spacer. That's +1" over stock in the front, and about stock in the rear. Then just run a scoshe lower pressure than you normally would to make up for that one inch drop at 'cruising altitude'.

Bags go way lower than you need anyway unless you wanna be able to totally air out and dump it at shows.

churchx 04-08-2016 12:37 PM

+1 to spacers, if bigger wheels were a considered option (which i wouldn't advise, due them weighing more and even worse - due bigger diameter they will change gearing ratio, resulting in worse acceleration), then i guess lowered car looks are not into must have list. Hence indeed why not rise/lift car via spacers (such as these)? Wheel gap will increase, but imho that's smaller price to pay then making car slower. I wouldn't had installed extra kits in first place though, if ground clearance mattered to me, limiting to at most some paint/vinyl. Am considering spacers myself, but due other reasons, for a bit more clearance/capability on rallyish gravel/ice roads. Regarding spacers imho it's also worth to not overdo them and lift car more then 1". I'm guessing, that it may rise need for other suspension mods, just like drop of more then inch, like getting non existent diff lowering kit and so on. If you still consider bigger wheels, then maybe worsened acceleration can be somewhat offset by supplementing it with also different ratio final drive.
From issues i've seen in air lift suspension related threads, i've striken that option from my considered potential purchase list. At that price level i expect for product to be faultless and noticeably better on most accounts that matter then cheaper options, but i don't see that. They might work better then cheapest coilovers, but if compared to ones that cost 2/3rds or their complete cost?

JazzleSAURUS 04-08-2016 04:01 PM

I'd like to toss out that I've been unimpressed with my Subtle Solutions experiences.

First experience: An alternator cover for my Forester XT, billed specifically for the Forester XT guys. It didn't include the necessary OEM bracket that's not present on 04-08 Forester XT's, and they expected you to reach from the underside of the car while running a bolt in from the top. I resolved this with some J-Nuts. I shouldn't of had to do this. It was pretty, but I found it's faults annoying for the cost.

Second experience: My sisters SH Forester got a 1" lift kit. Installing it I found it to not include control arm mount spacers which certainly felt necessary with that amount of droop. It naturally adds a few degrees of positive camber, which we had to resolve by fabricating our own spacers...(why we went to a subaru lift specialty place in the first place...)

Third experience: A rather well known BRZ that happens to be Lifted, (you can figure this one out...) is my close friend. We went to remove the kit to swap it out for a bigger ADF kit, (1.5",) and one of the bolts immediately broke. That's right, running a steel bolt through an aluminum spacer that's exposed to the elements is NOT the brightest idea in the world. We replace OEM hardware with less than OEM quality hardware under much greater torque loads, that now has a shelf for contaminants and road gunk to sit on, (the spacer,) and voila, you get broken bolts. The aluminum spacer should not be threaded.

I'll be removing my sisters lift kit to use drastically improved hardware, and drill out the threading in the spacer. I don't mind if the spacer is floating on top, if it's torqued appropriately it won't be an issue.

TL;DR the Subtle spacers are poorly engineered.


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