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frsqc 04-03-2016 11:33 AM

Thinking of putting back stock exhaust
 
I have the greddy evo 3 installed with the nameless helmoltz DP and OFH. The sound is starting to get to me ( probably getting old ) and i was wondering if i put back the stock exhaust if there would still be a nice sound to it but not to loud? also would it hinder performance in any way???? :iono:

Mr.Impreza 04-03-2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frsqc (Post 2608664)
I have the greddy evo 3 installed with the nameless helmoltz DP and OFH. The sound is starting to get to me ( probably getting old ) and i was wondering if i put back the stock exhaust if there would still be a nice sound to it but not to loud? also would it hinder performance in any way???? :iono:

Generally it should make the car much quieter.
However, how good/bad it will sound depends on the parts.

Another option, you could put the stock front pipe (dp) back on and keep the catback and see how that works out for you.

Performance, it shouldn't' really change anything because the catback doesn't gain much. 2-3whp + improved throttle response.

3rd option is like mine,
Keeping stock header and just running a catback + catless front pipe. I know for you this would be a difficult option for you though because you have felt the gains of a header haha

BirdTRD 04-03-2016 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frsqc (Post 2608664)
I have the greddy evo 3 installed with the nameless helmoltz DP and OFH. The sound is starting to get to me ( probably getting old ) and i was wondering if i put back the stock exhaust if there would still be a nice sound to it but not to loud? also would it hinder performance in any way???? :iono:



I have the Tomei UEL and OFT Stage 2 tune The rest of the exhaust is stock (except tips) and it is quiet except for the first 30 sec. on cold start. I had the TRD catback but sold it because it was too loud for me.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELSChRVBm_k"]Tomei UEL with OFT Stg 2 on BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

JD001 04-03-2016 12:31 PM



I wanted a flat four burble but only when pushing with an almost normal sound when cruising. I think I have it with the following:

Tomei UEL
Milltek OP
Berk fast cat
The rest is stock.

Note: it is loud when starting from cold.

Teseo 04-03-2016 12:54 PM

Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock

_gt86_user 04-03-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608718)
Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock

Yup have Tomei UEL+Greddy sp not loud at all sounds great.
OFH+Greddy sounds ok but not as good IMO.

Teseo 04-03-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by _gt86_user (Post 2608772)
Yup have Tomei UEL+Greddy sp not loud at all sounds great.
OFH+Greddy sounds ok but not as good IMO.

Its because tomei is more "beefy" ?

humfrz 04-03-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frsqc (Post 2608664)
.....................The sound is starting to get to me ( probably getting old ) and i was wondering if i put back the stock exhaust if there would still be a nice sound to it but not to loud? also would it hinder performance in any way???? :iono:

Interesting question. I have only a nameless axle back and I'm contemplating putting the stock muffler back on for long road trips, to make the cabin quieter.

But first, I have to pry mrs humfrz away from our granddaughters long enough to take a long road trip ...... :cry:


humfrz

ButeraFRS 04-03-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608718)
Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock

I'll let you know how this goes in a couple weeks. I have a works axleback an I have a catless fp in the mail.

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Teseo 04-03-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2608802)
I'll let you know how this goes in a couple weeks. I have a works axleback an I have a catless fp in the mail.

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Sound clip will be very helpful

TruRace 04-03-2016 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608718)
Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock



I've got a set up like this with a catted front pipe. I like it a lot. Leaving the stock midpipe helps keep the noise level down.

Teseo 04-03-2016 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TruRace (Post 2608842)
I've got a set up like this with a catted front pipe. I like it a lot. Leaving the stock midpipe helps keep the noise level down.

Can you provide a sound clip? Will give me an idea what to do on my set up

TruRace 04-03-2016 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608870)
Can you provide a sound clip? Will give me an idea what to do on my set up



[ame]http://youtu.be/JU7ULWPE56Y[/ame]

Fred Flintstone 04-03-2016 09:20 PM

I have a full Borla exhaust wirh UEL catless header, well it was pretty loud so I put sound deadening material in the trunk doors and back above rear seat, much less exhaust noise. Since I did the doors the stock stereo sounds like an after market unit with upgraded speakers. The doors and rear above seat were Sound Skins precut to fit no fuss just install $250. But the trunk was roof flashing from Home Depot 2 roles $36, perfect. Worth a try before getting ride of you exhaust !!!:w00t:

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-03-2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frsqc (Post 2608664)
I have the greddy evo 3 installed with the nameless helmoltz DP and OFH. The sound is starting to get to me ( probably getting old ) and i was wondering if i put back the stock exhaust if there would still be a nice sound to it but not to loud? also would it hinder performance in any way???? :iono:


Catbacks gain almost nothing on this car, unless maybe you had a forced induction setup. When you swap them out you get more sound than it's worth than any other exhaust part on the car it seems. I would reccomend putting the stock exhaust back on if it bothers you so much. The only thing you lose is sound and gain weight

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-03-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdTRD (Post 2608703)
I have the Tomei UEL and OFT Stage 2 tune The rest of the exhaust is stock (except tips) and it is quiet except for the first 30 sec. on cold start. I had the TRD catback but sold it because it was too loud for me.

Tomei UEL with OFT Stg 2 on BRZ - YouTube

I hope you know you can edit out that loud cold start especially because you no longer have that cat, I can help you edit that out if you like

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-03-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608718)
Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock


I'll have that setup at the end of the summer there are quite a few videos (3-4) of this set up running either a nameless axleback, top speed pro1 axleback, Works ABM, or Greddy SP elite. The middle two are the least expensive but in all cases you don't get much drone if any and I'm not sure if the SP elite is available anywhere any more.

ButeraFRS 04-05-2016 12:29 PM

My front pipe comes jn today if I can get a video by tomorrow I'll try.

But I just wanna say videos and exhausts don't do the justice. You only get the note of the exhaust and not the volume. Maybe I'll install a dB reader on my phone but those are inacuratate

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ZionsWrath 04-05-2016 12:40 PM

Anyone got a video of EL header and stock catback?

ButeraFRS 04-05-2016 05:22 PM

Just an update I'm getting the fp in now. I recorded what the stock one sounds like with the db reader now I will record this one once it's in.

Again I'm running a catless fp with a works axleback muffler. Everything else is stock. I'm excited to see what happens

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ButeraFRS 04-05-2016 06:46 PM

Alright so before the video goes up (just doing that now) right away what I notice is, on idle it's not any louder, on throttle theres an increase in volume slightly. But I think the most surprising thing is the fact that the tone is amazing and there just feels like your car has a little more road presence than before. 0 Rasp whatsoever.

Oh and I don't know if it's all in my head or not, but the torque dip was non existent. On my drive I did a first gear pull to redline and it pulled the whole way... I was very surprised. Could be in my head though.

ButeraFRS 04-05-2016 07:02 PM

Here you go guys @Teseo

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRjJcskBAow"]DC Sports Catless Frontpipe w/ Works Axleback Muffler - YouTube[/ame]

Like I said, the video doesn't do it justice. The system sounds amazing in real life.

Aozora.BRZ 04-07-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdTRD (Post 2608703)
I have the Tomei UEL and OFT Stage 2 tune The rest of the exhaust is stock (except tips) and it is quiet except for the first 30 sec. on cold start. I had the TRD catback but sold it because it was too loud for me.

Crap, now you are scaring me. I got the TRD catback and about to drop in a catless header, high flow front pipe. Did you experience drone?

BirdTRD 04-07-2016 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aozora.BRZ (Post 2613446)
Crap, now you are scaring me. I got the TRD catback and about to drop in a catless header, high flow front pipe. Did you experience drone?



Don't be too scared. I started out with the TRD catback before I had anything else (the rest of exhaust was stock) and it was too loud for me...then I did a full sound deadening treatment...still to loud. Put my stock muffler back on and got the Tomei UEL and I think it sounds good. I could probably stand a little more volume...but not much, I'm an old fart and don't tolerate noise as much as I used too! :D

FirstWinter 04-08-2016 12:29 AM

Catback has minimal performance gain/loss on our cars. You'll see weight difference and loudness when going aftermarket for our cars.

Weigaldo 07-23-2018 09:40 AM

I just put my stock catback on over the weekend. I was running Tomei UEL, OP, and 60R with a HKS FP for the last year... Suffice to say it was loud. I swapped the 60R with the stock catback. It doesn't sound the best, but that's mainly because you can barely hear it.

Lantanafrs2 07-23-2018 02:44 PM

I have ofh with stock exhaust. It sounds stock to me. Can't tell the difference.

jflogerzi 07-31-2018 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2608718)
Anyone of you guys tried catless header axleback and the rest stock? Front pipe+ mid pipe remain stock

I have a Tomei UEL and Nameless AB with 5 inch muffler option inbound. Should have clips with in 2-3 weeks.

gpvecchi 07-31-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ButeraFRS (Post 2611393)
Here you go guys @Teseo

DC Sports Catless Frontpipe w/ Works Axleback Muffler - YouTube

Like I said, the video doesn't do it justice. The system sounds amazing in real life.

Link to the muffler, please?

Vital 07-31-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3116284)
Link to the muffler, please?

https://store.worksmotorsports.com/W..._p/147.212.htm

Teseo 07-31-2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 3116253)
I have a Tomei UEL and Nameless AB with 5 inch muffler option inbound. Should have clips with in 2-3 weeks.

Thanks for your gestures, but i alredy bough JDL uel header and custom axleback. Sounds really good, got compliments almost everywhere

Trueweltall 07-31-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath (Post 2610815)
Anyone got a video of EL header and stock catback?

Uh, stock header is EL pretty much, so it would sound like a stock car.


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