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Toyota 86 vs Scion FR-S: A Visual Comparison W/Poll

I know we already have a few 2017 86 threads, but none with a visual comparison and poll.

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The Scion brand is officially dead and Toyota has put the last nails on its coffin with the unveiling of the refreshed GT 86 in New York, earlier in the week.

It serves as a replacement for the FR-S and it will be eventually followed by the iA and iM, which will be rebadged as Toyota Yaris iA and Corolla iM, respectively, despite the former being based on the Mazda2 and not its European namesake. In fact, the only model axed along with the brand is the tC.

Having made its transition to Toyota, the rear-wheel drive sports coupe brings a few styling tweaks on both ends, which include updated headlights with LED DRLs and a new look for the bumper that has a wider air intake, along with redesigned taillamps and refreshed rear bumper that incorporates a different diffuser.

The profile is unchanged, apart from the badge on the front fender, which was redesigned and re-positioned. Open the door and you will find a new "Grandlux" material on the instrument panel surround and door trims, which is basically a combination between leather and Alcantara, joined by new seat upholstery with silver stitching. There is also a tweaked steering wheel with integrated controls for the audio system and bigger paddle shifters in the automatic version, but this is where differences stop, as the rest of the cabin remains virtually identical.

Engineers have fiddled with the 2.0-liter four-banger boxer engine, supplied by Subaru and shared with the BRZ, which has gained a minor power bump of 5 HP, to a total of 205 HP and 156 pound-feet (212 Nm) of torque, on the 6-speed manual model, while the 6-speed automatic maintains its 200 HP output.

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I voted for the FR-S; maybe because I just don't much like change, maybe because the FR-S looks cleaner/crisper to me.

humfrz

They put an additional body line on the side? I just noticed this

Either way I still prefer original, much smoother.

New ones looks so try hard doesnt even look that good. They make the front grille wider but it doesn't even function. Look the wider parts is just blocked off.

The rear "diffuser" has extra line looks busy.

The fake vents under the headlight is now flowing in the wrong direction.

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2599847)

I voted for the FR-S; maybe because I just don't much like change, maybe because the FR-S looks cleaner/crisper to me.

humfrz

This. I'm afraid of change

I couldn't figure out why they screwed up the front bumper on this car, but now I see what they're doing. That weird new nose is aligning the car visually with the FT-1 concept:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7hnL1g3op...on-FR-S-01.jpg
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fsTLeYtGEdY/maxresdefault.jpg

This way, when the FT-1 comes to market, that sharp nose won't look completely foreign. I suspect the next redesign of the 86 will have an even sharper nose to fill in the gap between this refresh and the FT-1. It will look like a natural evolution of the style they already established.

The only thing i prefer on the new one is not having stupid chrome back headlights (yay for a simple fix) same goes for the tail lights. I never liked the altezza look on any car though.

FR-S for me. Yay for "aggressiveness".

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2599853)

I couldn't figure out why they screwed up the front bumper on this car, but now I see what they're doing. That weird new nose is aligning the car visually with the FT-1 concept:

http://artofgears.com/files/2015/10/...ota-S-FR-3.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XiUS9Va3K...on-FR-S-02.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fsTLeYtGEdY/maxresdefault.jpg

This way, when the FT-1 comes to market, that sharp nose won't look completely foreign. I suspect the next redesign of the 86 will have an even sharper nose to fill in the gap between this refresh and the FT-1. It will look like a natural evolution of the style they already established.

Makes me wonder if the SF-R will receive the same nose treatment as well.

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Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 2599869)

Makes me wonder if the SF-R will receive the same nose treatment as well.

Somehow I doubt it, but I suspect the final production version of that car will have other visual cues to bring it in line with the other two.

They can't make that car look too much like the 86, because that car is designed to be reminiscent of the old Datsun Sports 1000, Austin Healey Sprite, Triumph TR4, etc. These were small cars with big smiling grills. If they mess with the front end of that car too much, they'll lose that market niche.

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http://www.mg-cars.org.uk/pics/zacmgb01.jpg
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http://artofgears.com/files/2015/10/...ota-S-FR-3.jpg

Great thread OP :party0030:

The new updated version is just too busy. From the scowling turtle front end to the cluttered fender, it just looks a mess. The back end is an improvement on the new one though.

I went with GT86 for now. I may change my mind once I see the 86 in person. A lot changes from a rendering to reality.

From an SF-R article:

"It also manages to look sporty and athletic without resorting to the usual crutch of giving it an absurdly aggressive face."

Added: I'd buy an SF-R in a second. SF-R becomes the entry, the 86 moves up to about 33K. What is so hard about keeping the body clean and simple?

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...8782746145.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ug0yfA3ZXj0/maxresdefault.jpg

I like the visual changes on the new car other than the front bumper, which looks like my little niece just as she's about to cry.