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Packofcrows 03-25-2016 10:37 PM

Louvers........asdfghjkl;~!!!
 
I know there's 2 or 3 threads about louvers, but that's not why I'm here.


Anyone in the last year purchase louvers?

If so:


How is your DD overall visibility?
Night visibility good?
Which louver did you purchase?
Price?
Worth it?

I'm trying to muster up myself to buy one...... but $1000.... is so much for just louvers....

jawn 03-25-2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2597771)
I know there's 2 or 3 threads about louvers, but that's not why I'm here.


Anyone in the last year purchase louvers?

If so:


How is your DD overall visibility?
Night visibility good?
Which louver did you purchase?
Price?
Worth it?

I'm trying to muster up myself to buy one...... but $1000.... is so much for just louvers....

Is there more than once choice in louver?

Packofcrows 03-25-2016 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn (Post 2597777)
Is there more than once choice in louver?

Thats what I'm trying to see.

There was TRD, prototype one, cheap one from facebook and a ebay nameless one. Was for like $700.


Edit: Here's one of 'em. https://www.facebook.com/events/622174637894634/

Teseo 03-25-2016 11:05 PM

I can tell my review, but was on my rx7 and it came when bough it. Previous owner installed.
DD with daylight was ok
At night i did not see a shit, but was good when someone tailgate me with high beam
Was really good for summers, keep the inside with less heat.
But paying for one grand, hell no

Ultramaroon 03-25-2016 11:11 PM

@Jonesy86

dnieves 03-25-2016 11:58 PM

They look really good only on 80's hatchbacks & two seaters with the engine in the rear.


ex:
DeLorean
280ZX
1986 Supra
2nd gen RX-7
83 Trans Am/Firebird


I think they've become relics of the 80's like pop up headlights in the 90's and fins from the 50's.

fitcious 03-26-2016 12:31 AM

I want one too- I was looking at the TRD one- that's the one to get!

humfrz 03-26-2016 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2597771)
.............I'm trying to muster up myself to buy one...... but $1000.... is so much for just louvers....

I'm not against mods of the 80s, but wouldn't rear window louvers make keeping the rear window clean a pain ??....... :popcorn:


humfrz

Tcoat 03-26-2016 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2597941)
I'm not against mods of the 80s, but wouldn't rear window louvers make keeping the rear window clean a pain ??....... :popcorn:


humfrz

I would love a set but refuse to pay that much!!!!
To answer your question there Hum they unlatch very easily(or so I understand) and you just pop them off clean the window and pop them back on.

humfrz 03-26-2016 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2597947)
I would love a set but refuse to pay that much!!!!
To answer your question there Hum they unlatch very easily(or so I understand) and you just pop them off clean the window and pop them back on.

Oh, so, after you unscrew the 8 bolts ...... they just "pop" off ........ :D


humfrz

Packofcrows 03-26-2016 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2597978)
Oh, so, after you unscrew the 8 bolts ...... they just "pop" off ........ :D


humfrz

yepo!

Not so easy on, but easy off!

finch1750 03-26-2016 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2597791)
Thats what I'm trying to see.

There was TRD, prototype one, cheap one from facebook and a ebay nameless one. Was for like $700.


Edit: Here's one of 'em. !https://www.facebook.com/events/622174637894634/

There is only the TRD. Prototype never made it to market and emerged as the for sale TRD one due to the 3rd brake light. The FB one never happened and personally I wouldnt trust an ebay one due to fitment concerns personally. One day I plan to drop the cash on some.

I have sat in a car with them and visibility is totally fine

Dake 03-26-2016 02:48 AM

If the price came down to half - about 500 I'd get a set in a heartbeat (heck, I'd do 700 shipped). I love the looks but I just can't bring myself to drop a grand on them no matter how much "faster" they'd make me. :D

Tcoat 03-26-2016 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2597978)
Oh, so, after you unscrew the 8 bolts ...... they just "pop" off ........ :D


humfrz

Not like they are 8 inches long or anything.

Packofcrows 03-26-2016 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dake (Post 2597992)
If the price came down to half - about 500 I'd get a set in a heartbeat (heck, I'd do 700 shipped). I love the looks but I just can't bring myself to drop a grand on them no matter how much "faster" they'd make me. :D

Me too! :) For $700 S+H to US they'd be a perfect gift!

Wonder if we start a group buy of say...15[?] if one of the Nippon vendors would lower it to that?

Help me contact them!

humfrz 03-26-2016 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2597993)
Not like they are 8 inches long or anything.

:lol: ....... but, but, but ......I find it a hassle to reach all the way to the center of the rear window to clean it ........ and as far as moving the windshield wipers to clean under them ...... :sigh:

:threadjacked: ....... OK, I'll move on.....:(


humfrz

themadscientist 03-26-2016 05:58 AM

Louvers!

https://partnerxchange.files.wordpre...246306_640.jpg

Datcrazyeric 03-26-2016 09:20 AM

https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/44579

Tcoat 03-26-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2598022)
:lol: ....... but, but, but ......I find it a hassle to reach all the way to the center of the rear window to clean it ........ and as far as moving the windshield wipers to clean under them ...... :sigh:

:threadjacked: ....... OK, I'll move on.....:(


humfrz

Pretty sure there are guys here that take their wheels off to clean the tires!

humfrz 03-26-2016 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2598177)
Pretty sure there are guys here that take their wheels off to clean the tires!

Yep, I heard about some of them sick puppies ....... :sigh:


I remember back-in-the-day, on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon, under the shade of the maple trees in the barnyard, I was waxing my old car ....... again ...... when my father yelled out "if you wax that car one more time ...... I'm gonna find a hog house to clean out".

(for you non-farm types, shoveling the soupy hog poop out of the corner of a hog house, was the crappiest job on the farm).


humfrz

DHitHim 03-29-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2597771)
I know there's 2 or 3 threads about louvers, but that's not why I'm here.


Anyone in the last year purchase louvers?

If so:


How is your DD overall visibility?
Night visibility good?
Which louver did you purchase?
Price?
Worth it?

I'm trying to muster up myself to buy one...... but $1000.... is so much for just louvers....

I've seen the TRD ones in person and they are nice AF. You should have good visibility as long as you are looking directly behind you on the road via over shoulder and rear view mirror. As long as you're not trying to look upwards and behind you, you'll be fine.

go_a_way1 03-29-2016 06:38 PM

I had em on my 300zx they are fine for DD and really dont hurt visibility too much. Bitch to clean the window as you have to take them off every time

Packofcrows 03-29-2016 07:51 PM

Temps me to wax rear windshield to lessen up the cleaning.... Start saving up with me then guys. Let's start a a ft86 gang of louvers by December!

humfrz 03-29-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2602387)
Temps me to wax rear windshield to lessen up the cleaning.... Start saving up with me then guys. Let's start a a ft86 gang of louvers by December!

Well, now, Packofcrows ...... you just go for it. Yep, December will be a great time for the critters. The swallows will like the ledge effect; great place for the mud dobbers to build; the sparrows will appreciate the protection from the rain; the mice will find it a handy place to nest and it will be one stop grocery shopping for the birds of pray. At least, they will keep the seagull poop off the back window ....... :thumbup:


humfrz

Tcoat 03-29-2016 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2602568)
it will be one stop grocery shopping for the birds of pray.

humfrz

???????


http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...ill-bullas.jpg

humfrz 03-29-2016 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2602570)
???????


Well, Tcoat ....... ya got me there .......... :(


humfrz

Tcoat 03-29-2016 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2602581)
Well, Tcoat ....... ya got me there .......... :(


humfrz

Nobody can ever accuse me of not actually reading posts!
I laughed a solid 2 minutes (and I am well aware I make the same errors damn spell cheque)

CatScan 03-29-2016 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2602387)
Temps me to wax rear windshield to lessen up the cleaning.... Start saving up with me then guys. Let's start a a ft86 gang of louvers by December!

Griot's Glass Polish and then the sealant.

http://www.griotsgarage.com/category...ss+cleaning.do

MrDinkleman 03-29-2016 10:23 PM

I don't have louvers on my FRS but I do have them on my '79 Celica. I prefer louvers over tinting because louvers don't cause distortion, bubble up and peel off, reduce rearward visibility, or potentially screw up the defroster grid. I think they keep the car cooler in direct sunlight but I've never really compared a louvered car vs. tinted car.


Having said that, as much as the Twins look cool (to this "dinosaur", anyway) with louvers, I wouldn't get the TRD set just because of the mounting method: "glued" to the rear window. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen...


I am guessing that most people don't know/remember that originally, louvers' top hinges and bottom latches were mounted to the metal, with screws, right above and below the glass. The earliest ones I can think of are the 1969 Mustang Sportsroof (fastback). It was the aftermarket that came out with the louvers that had brackets that you slide in under the weather stripping and advertised as "No Drilling!" But manufacturers now bond all of the fixed glass so there is no chance for those kinds of louvers any more.


If Toyota would come out with a factory louver option/package that mounted with screws on/through the roof, I would get one; but I would have it installed by the dealer as well to maintain the rust and leaking warranty.

humfrz 03-29-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2602586)
Nobody can ever accuse me of not actually reading posts!
I laughed a solid 2 minutes (and I am well aware I make the same errors damn spell cheque)

I can't blame spell check this time ........ however, I will declare a "senior moment" ....... ;)


humfrz

Dake 03-30-2016 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDinkleman (Post 2602596)
I don't have louvers on my FRS but I do have them on my '79 Celica. I prefer louvers over tinting because louvers don't cause distortion, bubble up and peel off, reduce rearward visibility, or potentially screw up the defroster grid. I think they keep the car cooler in direct sunlight but I've never really compared a louvered car vs. tinted car.


Having said that, as much as the Twins look cool (to this "dinosaur", anyway) with louvers, I wouldn't get the TRD set just because of the mounting method: "glued" to the rear window. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen...


I am guessing that most people don't know/remember that originally, louvers' top hinges and bottom latches were mounted to the metal, with screws, right above and below the glass. The earliest ones I can think of are the 1969 Mustang Sportsroof (fastback). It was the aftermarket that came out with the louvers that had brackets that you slide in under the weather stripping and advertised as "No Drilling!" But manufacturers now bond all of the fixed glass so there is no chance for those kinds of louvers any more.


If Toyota would come out with a factory louver option/package that mounted with screws on/through the roof, I would get one; but I would have it installed by the dealer as well to maintain the rust and leaking warranty.

Someone on here modded the louvers to bolt down. I'm too lazy to search, but I remember reading about it.

Packofcrows 03-30-2016 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2602568)
Well, now, Packofcrows ...... you just go for it. Yep, December will be a great time for the critters. The swallows will like the ledge effect; great place for the mud dobbers to build; the sparrows will appreciate the protection from the rain; the mice will find it a handy place to nest and it will be one stop grocery shopping for the birds of pray. At levast, they will keep the seagull poop off the back window ....... :thumbup:


humfrz

Sh!T literally. I forgot bout bird poop.

Nesting I don't think so. They can't keep up with me when I'm gripping canyons. Lol

Tcoat 03-30-2016 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packofcrows (Post 2602762)
Sh!T literally. I forgot bout bird poop.

Nesting I don't think so. They can't keep up with me when I'm gripping canyons. Lol

Birds can be pretty aggressive at nesting time!


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Dadhawk 03-30-2016 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2598177)
Pretty sure there are guys here that take their wheels off to clean the tires!

And a few that probably remove the tires to clean the wheels.

Dadhawk 03-30-2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dake (Post 2602714)
Someone on here modded the louvers to bolt down. I'm too lazy to search, but I remember reading about it.

Actually, the TRD ones do bolt down, at the bottom. I'm OK with the install method frankly because anything else would require drilling into the car.

And, yes the price (including shipping) is killing these for me.

SK86 04-05-2016 01:00 PM

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I got some a couple of months ago.

How is your DD overall visibility? It was weird at first, but now I don't notice them

Night visibility good? No problems at night, the louvers don't occupy that much real estate

Which louver did you purchase? TRD

Price? ~$1100 after shipping

Worth it? 100%, easily my favorite mod for this car

Tcoat 04-05-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK86 (Post 2610829)
I got some a couple of months ago.

How is your DD overall visibility? It was weird at first, but now I don't notice them

Night visibility good? No problems at night, the louvers don't occupy that much real estate

Which louver did you purchase? TRD

Price? ~$1100 after shipping

Worth it? 100%, easily my favorite mod for this car

They really balance out the rims and tails nicely. Just the right proportions of dark to highlight the light blue. Very nice!
If the dollar ever levels out some more I will be going for it (right now it would probably cost me $2,500 or more with exchange, duties, taxes, etc).

SK86 04-05-2016 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2610834)
They really balance out the rims and tails nicely. Just the right proportions of dark to highlight the light blue. Very nice!
If the dollar ever levels out some more I will be going for it (right now it would probably cost me $2,500 or more with exchange, duties, taxes, etc).

Thanks! And that is insane, just have a buddy import to US and meet you at the border...

Tcoat 04-05-2016 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SK86 (Post 2610845)
Thanks! And that is insane, just have a buddy import to US and meet you at the border...

Doesn't help with exchange my dollar is still only worth about 75 cents there right now. Besides they take pictures of the car crossing the border and odds are they will notice the louvers. If I declare them I would have to pay all the fees. If I take a chance and don't declare then I have to pay the fees, plus a penalty and it will be recorded so they will watch me close every time I cross. Really no safe way around the shipping.

SK86 04-05-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2610853)
Doesn't help with exchange M\my dollar is still only worth about 75 cents there right now. Besides they take pictures of the car crossing the border and odds are they will notice the louvers. If I declare them I would have to pay all the fees. If I take a chance and don't declare then I have to pay the fees, plus a penalty and it will be recorded so they will watch me close every time I cross. Really no safe way around the shipping.

Dang, I had no idea.


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