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apelpapa 03-24-2016 12:10 AM

PCV Valve Replacement with STI Valve
 
I just installed the SPD kit on my car and I picked up a STI PCV Valve since a lot of people were recommending replacing it since the stock one is plastic. However where I would assume the PCV Valve is installed is right behind the intake manifold where the passenger side hose is going to from the intake manifold, right? Mine is metal (maybe the inside piece is plastic?)
So my question is am I looking at the right thing to replace? If so did you just use a socket with an angler to replace it, because it is kind of a pain where it sits right now?
I'm sorry if this isn't in the right section. I figured it would be with forced induction.
I've tried to google it but all I come up with is replacing the small plastic elbow, but that was hollow and replace with a straight metal tube during installation.

GsxrMe 03-24-2016 12:13 AM

Delete it and install a catchcan.

apelpapa 03-24-2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 2595069)
Delete it and install a catchcan.

I'm planing on installing a catch can in the summer, just holding off a little to recoup a little bit of funds

GsxrMe 03-24-2016 09:31 PM

I know how you feel but catch can and oilcooler is a must. The engine will take a beating even if it's a 7psi basemap tune with DD car.

I had oil leaks from anywhere the damn pressure could get out during WOT. Pcv delete, catchcan fixed it real fast.

Bykov 03-24-2016 09:36 PM

The JRSC instruction manual has instructions for installing it. That would be a good place to start. It has specific placement. I would go into why placement is important but I don't feel like looking through the KWSC thread for where it's mentioned. Hope that helps.

apelpapa 03-25-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bykov (Post 2596533)
The JRSC instruction manual has instructions for installing it. That would be a good place to start. It has specific placement. I would go into why placement is important but I don't feel like looking through the KWSC thread for where it's mentioned. Hope that helps.

Thanks for that, they installed a one way check one the hose I was thinking about, so I'll just swap the valve at the end of it. Thank you!

apelpapa 03-25-2016 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 2596525)
I know how you feel but catch can and oilcooler is a must. The engine will take a beating even if it's a 7psi basemap tune with DD car.

I had oil leaks from anywhere the damn pressure could get out during WOT. Pcv delete, catchcan fixed it real fast.

Ya, I'll probably order the dual radiums next week and just install the valve in the middle of the line temporarily until they come in

The Racers Line 03-25-2016 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apelpapa (Post 2595062)
I just installed the SPD kit on my car and I picked up a STI PCV Valve since a lot of people were recommending replacing it since the stock one is plastic. However where I would assume the PCV Valve is installed is right behind the intake manifold where the passenger side hose is going to from the intake manifold, right? Mine is metal (maybe the inside piece is plastic?)
So my question is am I looking at the right thing to replace? If so did you just use a socket with an angler to replace it, because it is kind of a pain where it sits right now?
I'm sorry if this isn't in the right section. I figured it would be with forced induction.
I've tried to google it but all I come up with is replacing the small plastic elbow, but that was hollow and replace with a straight metal tube during installation.

You don't replace the stock one because it is plastic, you replace it because it was never meant to see boost, so it opens up(under even 1psi from my testing) and lets boost into the crank case (bad)

A 19mm deep socket and a medium extension will get the old one out (it will be tight, but comes out) Screw the new STI one in by hand and then tighten down with the socket/ratchet.

zkv476 03-25-2016 04:15 AM

Yea idk who said the stock PCV is plastic; it is very much metal. I put in the one from the FA20F WRX.

Any reason they say to use the STI one? Is it better? Didn't even realize those were compatible.

Sportsguy83 03-25-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by zkv476 (Post 2596923)
Yea idk who said the stock PCV is plastic; it is very much metal. I put in the one from the FA20F WRX.

Any reason they say to use the STI one? Is it better? Didn't even realize those were compatible.

Shouldn't be much difference. WRX/STI, both were made to see boost, so they both work for the application.

spitfire481 03-25-2016 03:48 PM

its definitely metal. i drilled out the check valve in mine so it was wide open for my atmospheric vent catch can.

GsxrMe 03-25-2016 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitfire481 (Post 2597397)
its definitely metal. i drilled out the check valve in mine so it was wide open for my atmospheric vent catch can.

BINGO

Yep. Blow by creates presure in the case. If the valve is shut over boost then the crankcase can't let the presure out. The front case vent isn't enough.

Put a cap plug on your intake plenum and vent to atmosphere. a filter popped on the barb is better than back presure. And BOOM!

When I boosted my Busa, I left my crackcase vent wide open. Not worth it not to.

apelpapa 03-26-2016 01:36 AM

Ya, I'm not sure were I heard that it was plastic. Thanks for the replies guys.

mrk1 03-26-2016 10:15 PM

I run a VTA can and just replaced the valve with a hose fitting of the correct threads, boom done.

I did it just for simplicity, one less thing to fail.


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