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fuddbutter 03-16-2016 02:03 AM

Harrop Supercharger
 
Thought I should start a thread on this for any Aussie uses.

Had an email come though just before about their emissions approval

"Harrop Engineering is excited to announce that our market leading TVS1320 Supercharger Kit for Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ platform has passed IM240 drive cycle emission's test, and therefore now has certification for both manual and automatic transmission variants. This is an achievement we are extremely proud of at Harrop and represents our commitment to technical excellence in automotive performance in both design & manufacturing"



Pricing is updated too
Tuner Kit (RRP) - $6985 incl GST
Complete Kit with EcuTek Calibration - $7975 incl GST
(For any American's that have stumbled in here, that is Aussie dollars..)

kuczynskika 03-16-2016 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 2583123)
Thought I should start a thread on this for any Aussie uses.

Had an email come though just before about their emissions approval

"Harrop Engineering is excited to announce that our market leading TVS1320 Supercharger Kit for Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ platform has passed IM240 drive cycle emission's test, and therefore now has certification for both manual and automatic transmission variants. This is an achievement we are extremely proud of at Harrop and represents our commitment to technical excellence in automotive performance in both design & manufacturing"



Pricing is updated too
Tuner Kit (RRP) - $6985 incl GST
Complete Kit with EcuTek Calibration - $7975 incl GST
(For any American's that have stumbled in here, that is Aussie dollars..)

$5208.71 and $5946.00 in USD

are we talking CARB level certification here?

Bodalenko 03-16-2016 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 2583123)
"Harrop Engineering is excited to announce that our market leading TVS1320 Supercharger Kit for Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ platform has passed IM240 drive cycle emission's test, and therefore now has certification for both manual and automatic transmission variants.

Wonder if that's with both factory cats fitted and OEM headers?

Price has dropped since I enquirered a month ago. Higher $AU I guess..

ZZT86 03-16-2016 06:07 AM

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I too got that same email. Dyno looks interesting although no figures below 2500rpm & they passed EPA using a stock header . . . . see attached dyno chart.

I wish I had the moula to splurge on this :wub:

fuddbutter 03-16-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodalenko (Post 2583195)
Wonder if that's with both factory cats fitted and OEM headers?

Price has dropped since I enquirered a month ago. Higher $AU I guess..

That price you had was for install too wasn't it?
I thought these prices are just for supply?

I am waiting till mid year before I get mine installed (Save a bit of moolah and make sure i want to go through with it) But I want to get this done so bad haha.

fuddbutter 03-16-2016 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuczynskika (Post 2583134)
$5208.71 and $5946.00 in USD

are we talking CARB level certification here?


Looks so much better in US dollars :(

No idea if it will be the same as CARB, Not sure how similar the testing is, of if they are similar if CARB would pass it.
I guess it would be a pretty smart move for them to get it CARB tested if they want to move a few in the states!

kuczynskika 03-16-2016 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 2583232)
Looks so much better in US dollars :(



No idea if it will be the same as CARB, Not sure how similar the testing is, of if they are similar if CARB would pass it.

I guess it would be a pretty smart move for them to get it CARB tested if they want to move a few in the states!


It is my hope that this kit becomes more mainstream and in direct competition with edelbrock's SC. The Harrop kit is much more elegant. If it passes tests over there I see no reason why it wouldn't over here.


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ZZT86 03-16-2016 09:03 AM

Looking @ that graph again the power curve is virtually flat & torque also looks really good. The flat spot is right about there b/w 2000-4000rpm so harrops sc & tune has nipped that right in the bud. Could you imagine this on E85? Nice :burnrubber:

HarropOz 03-20-2016 07:39 PM

Hi Guys and Gals,

Just thought I'd drop in here and Say hello.

We're absolutely thrilled with our progress on CARB emissions testing, and with our recent work passing our local Emissions testing here in Australia.

If you have any questions or are looking to make a booking for a full install and tune, please feel free to either ask here or email us at sales@harrop.com.au.

regards

Andrew.

HarropOz 03-20-2016 11:09 PM

That's great to hear.

So what can i do to help you make the decision, or assist you to go ahead?

We have kits on the shelf ready to ship so if you are keen please dont hesitate to contact me at Sales@harrop.com.au If you bulk purchase together (group buy) i am sure there is something i can work out for you.

let me know.

regards

Andrew.

Wise 03-22-2016 04:57 AM

Really interested to see what the results would be running an aftermarket header like the Tomei UEL or EL.

And how one could get the car engineered and legal with the kit plus tuning and header.

x1UP 03-22-2016 09:01 AM

Man! I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm going FI this year and after a lot of research, have narrowed it down to Edelbrock. Until I saw this.

Any reason why yours might be better or equal to the more mainstream Edelbrock? Their support, from my understanding, is great, so I'm curious to see what kinf of support you guys will give to us US users!

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

HarropOz 03-22-2016 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2591906)
Really interested to see what the results would be running an aftermarket header like the Tomei UEL or EL.

And how one could get the car engineered and legal with the kit plus tuning and header.

Hi Guys,

The car cannot be engineered in Australia with engine/exhaust mods, as it wont pass emissions tests for Noise.

On our demo 86, is running the HKS Stroker, Ace Headers, and HKS Cat Back on e85 making about 282RWKW

Hope that helps.

Andrew.

HarropOz 03-22-2016 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x1UP (Post 2591960)
Man! I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm going FI this year and after a lot of research, have narrowed it down to Edelbrock. Until I saw this.

Any reason why yours might be better or equal to the more mainstream Edelbrock? Their support, from my understanding, is great, so I'm curious to see what kinf of support you guys will give to us US users!

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

Hi There,

The Harrop TVS1320 is a very neat Kit. Has the Edelbrock Blower Passed its CARB Testing in USA? We've had our car at SEMA Garage for testing for a while and the approval process does take a long time, but its very exciting to see the progress here in Australia with our local emissions tests.

We've been selling quite a few kits to the USA, and some dealers are starting to come online. Mike at Moto-East comes to mind, and have been great to deal with!

From a price perspective the prices are very similar.

regards

Andrew.

gMit 03-25-2016 03:53 AM

Would love to get one later in the year but am based in Melbourne and don't know of any tuners. Do you guys have anyone down here?

Wise 03-28-2016 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2593171)
Hi Guys,

The car cannot be engineered in Australia with engine/exhaust mods, as it wont pass emissions tests for Noise.

On our demo 86, is running the HKS Stroker, Ace Headers, and HKS Cat Back on e85 making about 282RWKW

Hope that helps.

Andrew.

So if I put my stock exhaust back on I could get a mod plate and then just put aftermarket exhaust back on and retune?

Mod plate wouldn't be valid, but always have the option of putting stock exhaust back on if emissions need to be passed.

You guys are in Preston Melbourne right?

HarropOz 03-28-2016 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 2599569)
So if I put my stock exhaust back on I could get a mod plate and then just put aftermarket exhaust back on and retune?

Mod plate wouldn't be valid, but always have the option of putting stock exhaust back on if emissions need to be passed.

You guys are in Preston Melbourne right?

Yes that's right we're in Preston on Bell Street.

We of course recommend that the car is kept in the guise it was engineered as. We couldn't suggest any changes to the vehicle after the Engineering Certificate would be classified as legal.

Andrew.

HarropOz 03-28-2016 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gMit (Post 2596907)
Would love to get one later in the year but am based in Melbourne and don't know of any tuners. Do you guys have anyone down here?

Hi Mate,

You can bring the car here to us here at Harrop to get the car Tuned.

When you're ready, please make contact and we can take care of the whole job for you in our Harrop Performance Centre.

Andrew.

gMit 03-31-2016 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2600555)
Hi Mate,

You can bring the car here to us here at Harrop to get the car Tuned.

When you're ready, please make contact and we can take care of the whole job for you in our Harrop Performance Centre.

Andrew.

This makes me excited :happyanim:

86 South Africa 04-05-2016 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2589971)
Hi Guys and Gals,

Just thought I'd drop in here and Say hello.

We're absolutely thrilled with our progress on CARB emissions testing, and with our recent work passing our local Emissions testing here in Australia.

If you have any questions or are looking to make a booking for a full install and tune, please feel free to either ask here or email us at sales@harrop.com.au.

regards

Andrew.


Could you DM me a price if you shipped a kit to South Africa?
(I'll convert from Aussie dollars with Google ;) )

I would self-tune (read Delicious tuning) and self-install with some help from my old-man.

Hopefully you're kind and consider how S&*! our exchange rate is :lol:

86 South Africa 04-05-2016 03:24 AM

Oh... yes... I already have a flexfuel kit (Delicious) - would that be easy enough to keep with the SC kit - obviously with the appropriate tune, or would you recommend I go with normal petrol?

I am happy to give up on e85 if it's a safer bet, but from what I've seen it tends to work really well with boosted cars.
(I also need the FF capability because getting ethanol here isn't easy).

HarropOz 04-05-2016 03:36 AM

send us an email at sales@harrop.com.au

B T 04-05-2016 04:49 PM

Are there any body modifications needed to install this kit? such as mounting for the air-water cooler?

kuczynskika 04-05-2016 04:51 PM

Any chance we could see an install pdf. or something?


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HarropOz 04-05-2016 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B T (Post 2611182)
Are there any body modifications needed to install this kit? such as mounting for the air-water cooler?

None.

All factory accessories are out of the way, and the IC fits with no mods.

HarropOz 04-05-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuczynskika (Post 2611184)
Any chance we could see an install pdf. or something?


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What information are you looking for? We typically don't hand out installation guides to protect our IP, but i am happy to send you snippets of the information if you are concerned with any component.

regards

Andrew.

kuczynskika 04-05-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2611421)
What information are you looking for? We typically don't hand out installation guides to protect our IP, but i am happy to send you snippets of the information if you are concerned with any component.

regards

Andrew.

I don't have any particular questions. I am just curious how it would stack up against the Edelbrock in terms of a "do-it-your-self" installation. The Harrop seems may more simple but I would like some kind of confirmation.

HarropOz 04-05-2016 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuczynskika (Post 2611525)
I don't have any particular questions. I am just curious how it would stack up against the Edelbrock in terms of a "do-it-your-self" installation. The Harrop seems may more simple but I would like some kind of confirmation.

I'll see what i can place online for you to read through

standby

kuczynskika 04-05-2016 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2611544)
I'll see what i can place online for you to read through



standby



Thanks! The edelbrock (and many other's) instructions are on this forum in a thread somewhere and I have seen those. Just an FYI

HarropOz 04-05-2016 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuczynskika (Post 2611549)
Thanks! The edelbrock (and many other's) instructions are on this forum in a thread somewhere and I have seen those. Just an FYI

I've got a copy i can email out now.

please email me directly so i can send it to you.

regards

Andrew

sales@harrop.com.au

HarropOz 04-17-2016 08:57 PM

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Enjoy!

Wise 06-10-2016 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarropOz (Post 2600545)
Yes that's right we're in Preston on Bell Street.

We of course recommend that the car is kept in the guise it was engineered as. We couldn't suggest any changes to the vehicle after the Engineering Certificate would be classified as legal.

Andrew.

Is the emissions for noise a set decibel limit or is the supercharger kit only allowed to pass if the exhaust is completely stock?

I'm thinking that a tame unit like the Invidia Q300 shouldn't be too much louder than stock really.

HarropOz 06-10-2016 02:44 AM

Its purely a noise thing.....


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