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Eighty 6 02-15-2016 07:54 AM

Paint protection???
 
Hi there, im taking my car in to get it paint protected, they brand the dealer uses is diamond brite, they do the exterior and interior.

Yay or nay?

Rustproofing by zeibart

Yay or nay?

Tcoat 02-15-2016 08:04 AM

It would appear that Diamond Brite is not in North America so don't know how any here can comment on how good they are. Probably as good as any other protection from what I read.


Why are you getting rustproofing at all? Does it actually get wet and/or salty enough there to warrant it? Do cars even rust there?

Eighty 6 02-15-2016 08:43 AM

Well according to a dealer rep there are high levels of moisture and humidity in the gulf area and he recommended rust proofing. As they do.

Im just worried about the smells associated with it after the application, must be pretty toxic.

What do you think of paintprotection in general, good idea?

Tcoat 02-15-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eighty 6 (Post 2548164)
Well according to a dealer rep there are high levels of moisture and humidity in the gulf area and he recommended rust proofing. As they do.

Im just worried about the smells associated with it after the application, must be pretty toxic.

What do you think of paintprotection in general, good idea?

Paint protection is something I wish I had done. In hindsight it could have helped a lot since I am now the Swirl Mark King of Canada.


The rust proofing I am not convinced on. Even here where we drive through salty slush for four or five months a year I dispute it's value on modern cars. Yes, there was a day when the materials in cars would rust in a couple of years but any quality car made in the last decade or so just isn't as prone to this issue. Body panels are made of much more rust resistant materials then they used to be and simply cleaning them periodically will keep them in good shape. Not saying that cars won't still rust eventually but the odds are that they will wear out before they rust out. The days of the rotted through, no floored, flapping trimmed, 5 year old car are well in the past.

go_a_way1 02-15-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2548187)
Paint protection is something I wish I had done. In hindsight it could have helped a lot since I am now the Swirl Mark King of Canada.


The rust proofing I am not convinced on. Even here where we drive through salty slush for four or five months a year I dispute it's value on modern cars. Yes, there was a day when the materials in cars would rust in a couple of years but any quality car made in the last decade or so just isn't as prone to this issue. Body panels are made of much more rust resistant materials then they used to be and simply cleaning them periodically will keep them in good shape. Not saying that cars won't still rust eventually but the odds are that they will wear out before they rust out. The days of the rotted through, no floored, flapping trimmed, 5 year old car are well in the past.

Paint protection is a UV protection and surface protection from air pollutants it does not protect against swril marks or scratchs. Paint protection is a waste of money if you wax your own car as that is all it is anyways, just a wax you need to re apply once a year. The only way to protect the paint is with 3M or a like product, however the 3M will still get swirls however the paint is safe haha.

I agree with you on rust proofing, new cars are made to a higher standard and alot less likely to rust out if you take care of it. The way they apply rust proofing is shotty at best. They just aimlessly spray it into holes where water should drain out (from condensation ect) and hope it coats all the panel they dont actually take them off and do it right. They spend all of 15 minutes "rust proofing" a car so I find it hard to belive that that 15 minutes makes a car rust proof lol.

Eighty 6 02-15-2016 10:41 AM

Yeah Im gonna pass on rust proofing but will most probably do the paint protect. Youre right, if they mess it up they'll block the drainage holes, I dont trust them

go_a_way1 02-15-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Eighty 6 (Post 2548222)
Yeah Im gonna pass on rust proofing but will most probably do the paint protect. Youre right, if they mess it up they'll block the drainage holes, I dont trust them

Just wax yourcar yourself twice a year it will save you money and its time to bond with your car

Tcoat 02-15-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2548226)
Just wax yourcar yourself twice a year it will save you money and its time to bond with your car

Twice a year? I do mine monthly through the summer.
Winter well....

go_a_way1 02-15-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2548357)
Twice a year? I do mine monthly through the summer.
Winter well....

haha I wax mine every 2 weeks cuz I have no life in the summer. The bare minimum anyone should do is twice a year if you ask me. You should polish your car one day then wax it the next over a weekend to get rid of all your swirls

Teseo 02-15-2016 12:23 PM

Save money and repaint the car

go_a_way1 02-15-2016 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2548370)
Save money and repaint the car

valid point! Just be sure to find a shady paint shop that uses the old lead based paints

Teseo 02-15-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2548375)
valid point! Just be sure to find a shady paint shop that uses the old lead based paints

Not at that point lol

shiumai 02-15-2016 01:02 PM

i use a synthetic paint sealant instead of wax - seems to last longer.

go_a_way1 02-15-2016 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 2548446)
i use a synthetic paint sealant instead of wax - seems to last longer.

Paint sealers are different from wax but at the end of the day they both work good.


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