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Snyperiflex 02-05-2016 03:02 PM

Car dies immediately
 
I just finished installing an Innovate Supercharger 210 (intercooled) kit, loaded in my base tune from Moto-East, but my car will shut off immediately after starting (doesn't even idle, engine fires and then dies).

Found out that my car fires up straight away and idles strong (steady 2k rpm) with the MAF disconnected from the airbox (OEM)

I have gotten codes
P050A - Cold Start Idle Air Control System Performance
B14A1 - Open in Solar Sensor Circuit for AC unit (common non-issue)
U0100 - Lost Communication with ECM/PCM "A"

No knocks or misfires detected

I figure the only reasons my car would be dying immediately is if I have a massive leak or I'm having an issue with tune/connections/pinched wires

If my car had a huge vacuum leak, it shouldn't be able to idle in Limp Mode right?

Anyways, Moto-East said I should take some data logs and send it to them, I have a friend coming with a boroscope to check my wires under the manifold, and I'm gonna have at my car with a vape/carb cleaner looking for leaks.

Any suggestions on what else I could do to help narrow down the culprit?

go_a_way1 02-05-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyperiflex (Post 2537234)
I just finished installing an Innovate Supercharger 210 (intercooled) kit, loaded in my base tune from Moto-East, but my car will shut off immediately after starting (doesn't even idle, engine fires and then dies).

Found out that my car fires up straight away and idles strong (steady 2k rpm) with the MAF disconnected from the airbox (OEM)

I have gotten codes
P050A - Cold Start Idle Air Control System Performance
B14A1 - Open in Solar Sensor Circuit for AC unit (common non-issue)
U0100 - Lost Communication with ECM/PCM "A"

No knocks or misfires detected

I figure the only reasons my car would be dying immediately is if I have a massive leak or I'm having an issue with tune/connections/pinched wires

If my car had a huge vacuum leak, it shouldn't be able to idle in Limp Mode right?

Anyways, Moto-East said I should take some data logs and send it to them, I have a friend coming with a boroscope to check my wires under the manifold, and I'm gonna have at my car with a vape/carb cleaner looking for leaks.

Any suggestions on what else I could do to help narrow down the culprit?

Did you get a new MAP sensor? the MAP sensor scaling in the tune will effect the car.

Snyperiflex 02-05-2016 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2537246)
Did you get a new MAP sensor? the MAP sensor scaling in the tune will effect the car.

No, OEM map sensor
However, I used the supplied MAP sensor extension wire that was included in the kit
I will attempt to run the OEM wires to the sensor without the extension (in case the extension is bad)

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go_a_way1 02-05-2016 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyperiflex (Post 2537253)
No, OEM map sensor
However, I used the supplied MAP sensor extension wire that was included in the kit
I will attempt to run the OEM wires to the sensor without the extension (in case the extension is bad)

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Contact your tuner to see if the tune is for OEM MAP or aftermarket one. Other then that I would think its a electrical issue with a wire not being plugged in. If you had a vacuum leak you would hear it and RPM would hit 2k before the car limits it climbing anymore, unless its really bad maybe the tune just kills then engine at that point :iono: I have only had 1 small vacuum leak

zoth 02-05-2016 04:08 PM

^^^ What he said ^^^ Mike has a tune for OEM MAP, but you should consider a 3bar sensor anyways.

Snyperiflex 02-05-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoth (Post 2537347)
^^^ What he said ^^^ Mike has a tune for OEM MAP, but you should consider a 3bar sensor anyways.

If I remember correctly, the 3bar sensors don't work with the innovate/sprintex kit
There has been a lot of problems running the 3bar sensor for reasons unknown

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zoth 02-08-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyperiflex (Post 2537351)
If I remember correctly, the 3bar sensors don't work with the innovate/sprintex kit
There has been a lot of problems running the 3bar sensor for reasons unknown

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Ask Mike if a Honda 2.5 will work.


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