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StormTrooper305 02-04-2016 11:08 PM

Paint Repair
 
thanks for clicking on this. so im getting afew dings repaired on the baby. two were from different hit and runs, others i hit rocks... blah blah blah. the only research ive pulled from the internet and searching this site is the paint name "Halo" and the code for the color "K1X". my questions are:

-Does anyone know a website that sells the factory paint? or is toyota the onlyyyy people that have it?
-Is the paint application just include the paint, or do you add something to get the slight blue glittery-ness in the Halo color?
-Anything I can ask/tell the body shop on tips or tricks concerning this paint specifically?

I look at a few cars he was working on he matched the red from a toyota tundra perfected and did a great job, so i want to use his services.

Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated. if anyone knows a great body shop that they have used in the past, thatd be cool. im located in Miami, FL.

I apologize if this thread has already been created or i get bashed for doing/saying something dumb.

thanks, have a good one

FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-04-2016 11:17 PM

@StormTrooper305

-Does anyone know a website that sells the factory paint? or is Toyota the only people that have it?

You're going to a body shop anyway so ask them to get the OEM paint from a parts department. OR they can use this:
https://toyota.autopartsbridge.com/?language=EN

as recommended by this collision repair brochure:
http://www.crrtraining.com/CRR2/asse...012_Spring.pdf

-Is the paint application just include the paint, or do you add something to get the slight blue glittery-ness in the Halo color?


Other than clear coat, I'm pretty sure that "glitteryness" is the metallic flaking in the paint which should be included when they get the K1X

-Anything I can ask/tell the body shop on tips or tricks concerning this paint specifically?

None that I know of, they can contact a Toyota certified collision repair shop for tips and they probably know what they are doing

TruRace 02-05-2016 12:10 AM

I took my car to Chipmasters in Ft Lauderdale. Might be a bit of a drive from where your at depending what part of Miami your in. I had some pretty bad damage on the a pillar from some debris on 95. They did an awesome job repairing it. And if you get the color code most paint shops should be able to color match.

FR-Sky 02-05-2016 01:22 AM

nice post btw....
I am planning to paint spoiler in the future...
Since my 10 series got a special color,do i need to take it back to toyota, or any paint shop out there?

Thanks

N1cotine 02-05-2016 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 2536487)
@StormTrooper305

-Does anyone know a website that sells the factory paint? or is Toyota the only people that have it?

You're going to a body shop anyway so ask them to get the OEM paint from a parts department. OR they can use this:
https://toyota.autopartsbridge.com/?language=EN

as recommended by this collision repair brochure:
http://www.crrtraining.com/CRR2/asse...012_Spring.pdf

-Is the paint application just include the paint, or do you add something to get the slight blue glittery-ness in the Halo color?


Other than clear coat, I'm pretty sure that "glitteryness" is the metallic flaking in the paint which should be included when they get the K1X

-Anything I can ask/tell the body shop on tips or tricks concerning this paint specifically?

None that I know of, they can contact a Toyota certified collision repair shop for tips and they probably know what they are doing

Hello I'll clear up a few things. Toyota does not sell paint. Actually there aren't any dealers that sell "factory" paint. There is a paint code that is used to blend and make the paint. The body shop that you choose will take the paint code and make their own paint. The metallic flakes is part of the mixed paint.

Few tips. Go to the shops your considering and tell the service writer that you want to get some paint/repair work done and ask to see some work they've recently done. Many shops should be able to offer you a lifetime warranty on the work as long as you own the car. Next ask the service writer to write you an estimate and walk you through it. A good shop will detrim the area that's being fixed recommend blending adjacent panels to ensure paint match. For example if your door is getting fixed they need to remove your door handle, belt molding and mirror. They should also have a line to cover your car for overspray unless its getting painted off the car. This all adds up to a more costly repair but I prefer to have things done right.

If you want more help let me know what you need fixed and I'll write you an estimate.:thumbsup:

aegisdrgn 02-05-2016 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-Sky (Post 2536615)
nice post btw....
I am planning to paint spoiler in the future...
Since my 10 series got a special color,do i need to take it back to toyota, or any paint shop out there?

Thanks


Paint is paint is paint. As long as you have the color code (J8A for FRS 10 series, but I heard the tC 10 series 1J8 paint code is basically the same) any competent body shop that guarantees their work can do it.

aegisdrgn 02-05-2016 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by N1cotine (Post 2536617)
Hello I'll clear up a few things. Toyota does not sell paint. Actually there aren't any dealers that sell "factory" paint. There is a paint code that is used to blend and make the paint. The body shop that you choose will take the paint code and make their own paint. The metallic flakes is part of the mixed paint.

Few tips. Go to the shops your considering and tell the service writer that you want to get some paint/repair work done and ask to see some work they've recently done. Many shops should be able to offer you a lifetime warranty on the work as long as you own the car. Next ask the service writer to write you an estimate and walk you through it. A good shop will detrim the area that's being fixed recommend blending adjacent panels to ensure paint match. For example if your door is getting fixed they need to remove your door handle, belt molding and mirror. They should also have a line to cover your car for overspray unless its getting painted off the car. This all adds up to a more costly repair but I prefer to have things done right.

If you want more help let me know what you need fixed and I'll write you an estimate.:thumbsup:

I second the "detrimming" step - when I had my rear quarter panel repaired, they had to take out the quarter window as well. Too bad the glass installer was shit compared to the body and paint guys - they tore up the edges of my interior trim panels and messed up the weather strips during reinstall.

My advice - no matter which body shop you decide to go to, unless you already have experience with them, take a crapload of close up pictures of the areas that will be worked on so you have proof in case they do damage something and you need to have it repaired.

N1cotine 02-05-2016 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aegisdrgn (Post 2536622)
Paint is paint is paint. As long as you have the color code (J8A for FRS 10 series, but I heard the tC 10 series 1J8 paint code is basically the same) any competent body shop that guarantees their work can do it.

As long as you aren't very particular then sure paint is paint.

aegisdrgn 02-05-2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by N1cotine (Post 2536626)
As long as you aren't very particular then sure paint is paint.

lol - I can see how what I said can be misunderstood - I was just trying to make the same point you were: there is no such thing as "factory paint" and that the paint is made by the body shop.

N1cotine 02-05-2016 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aegisdrgn (Post 2536628)
lol - I can see how what I said can be misunderstood - I was just trying to make the same point you were: there is no such thing as "factory paint" and that the paint is made by the body shop.

Ha no worries I am just super picky about my paint work cause I do it everyday.

kch 02-05-2016 11:27 AM

Halo and CWP are what they call tri-coat paints. That is, there's a white base coat, a middle pearl coat, and then the clearcoat. It is notoriously difficult to match 100%.

I have a 3-stage touchup kit from www.automotivetouchup.com and it does well enough. I generally do the base coat first, and then just mix the pearl and clear together and apply on top.

Tcoat 02-05-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by N1cotine (Post 2536617)
Hello I'll clear up a few things. Toyota does not sell paint. Actually there aren't any dealers that sell "factory" paint. There is a paint code that is used to blend and make the paint. The body shop that you choose will take the paint code and make their own paint. The metallic flakes is part of the mixed paint.

.:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kch (Post 2536962)
Halo and CWP are what they call tri-coat paints. That is, there's a white base coat, a middle pearl coat, and then the clearcoat. It is notoriously difficult to match 100%.

I have a 3-stage touchup kit from www.automotivetouchup.com and it does well enough. I generally do the base coat first, and then just mix the pearl and clear together and apply on top.


These^^^^^
The factory paint is special and only works with the factory application process. There are no body shops that can use "factory" paint. The odds of "factory" paint matching a used car are remote anyway since it has not been subject to sunlight and wear and tear. The body shop can match the paint far more effectively then any can of "factory" stuff would. The paint the body shop will use will be far better than the factory paint anyway since they are restricted to the same VOC reduction requirement the factories are. This means they can apply a thicker and stronger coat.


The pearl is a separate coat as said. If you get a chance take a look at what Laval looks like under the hood. They don't put the pearl coat over the base there and it is one funky colour.

pLaydEad86 02-05-2016 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2536994)
These^^^^^
The factory paint is special and only works with the factory application process. There are no body shops that can use "factory" paint. The odds of "factory" paint matching a used car are remote anyway since it has not been subject to sunlight and wear and tear. The body shop can match the paint far more effectively then any can of "factory" stuff would. The paint the body shop will use will be far better than the factory paint anyway since they are restricted to the same VOC reduction requirement the factories are. This means they can apply a thicker and stronger coat.
The pearl is a separate coat as said. If you get a chance take a look at what Laval looks like under the hood. They don't put the pearl coat over the base there and it is one funky colour.

I have a hot lava and yes i agree that the colour under our hood is funky. Lol

Tcoat 02-05-2016 09:14 PM

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I have a hot lava and yes i agree that the colour under our hood is funky. Lol

For those that do not have access to a lava (you have my pity) here is what we mean.


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