Why no 17x7 love?
 

Hey, just wondering, but why are so many companies today only making rims by 17x9+

Like i find a lot of nice rims, but the smallest they ever go is 17x9

What ever happened to the days of 17x7?

For example, i like RPF1's...but in SBC...however they only make them in 17x9 plus...

Why?

Because ricecar.

Yeah, i understand 17x9 looks nice in pictures, but I don't understand why you would want to take away the nimble/playful feeling of this car and make it drive like a train?

It's even proven 16x7 are quicker for lap times on the stock car.

(Minus guys with high hp, than i understand you'd want wider)

Probably no SBC because of demand. Those who want track wheels in 17x7, most figure don't care about the "bling" of the SBC coating. I personally run 17x9 w/ 245, couldnt be happier with how it feels. I might drop down to a 17*8 with 225 RC1 for NASA tho.

I am with you on this!! If I ever get rims I would get a 17x8 at the widest and they must be lighter then stock,but thats if I jump on the wheels bandwagon

Yeah same here i wouldn't go anymore than 17x8. I'm staying stock rims though also. I'd only get new rims if Eneki RPF1 were made in 17x7 in SBC cause they are lighter than stock and look cool (to me)

pfft. some people just never learn huh?

Yeah but they are over used haha. Here are some 17x8's that I like the look of (and I don't like many wheels lol) and they are lighter then stock and best part is they are cheap. Click me to become happy there is at least 1 option for us

Really it's just about $$.

I really don't like the look of the RPF1, so I ended up getting PF-01s in 18x8.5. A few more $$$, nothing crazy like fully forged, but still lighter than stock even at that size.

Sorry bad habit. I am going to hell now
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52368312.jpg

TRUE THAT! All the rims I like cost $800 USD + each lmao!!

I am just curious as to why you think they only have them in 17x9?..

Just a little bit of searching did I find them in;

17x7.5 +48 5x100
17x8 +35 and +45 in 5x100

If you're so set on the color as well why not get it powder coated?

This is my goal, Lower it and put some spacers. I think it look fantastic! :D

http://s14.postimg.org/rsm728d5d/20m..._inch_drop.jpg

Or try that autodip stuff. I am really excited to try it on my OEM ri.... Wheels!!

haha I already have coilovers and spacers sitting in my room waiting for spring time :D great minds think alike!

@MisterSheep Why are you here? The rest of us are Canadian lmao! come to join the cool kids :bellroll:

edit: JK @jawn showed up :( I really gota call them Wheels lol

I'm on 17x7 RPF1s with sticky tires. Not a "ricecar" at all.

I haven't seen a Powdercoat which is anywhere close to how SCB looks.


Also, Powdercoated wheels seem to "fail" more than none powdercoated. Enkei does not recomment having their wheels powdercoated as they claim it will affect the wheels structure.

This is true, and I've seen it firsthand :D

See this guy gets it! You never fail me @LOLS2K :popcorn:

What rubber do you run? I keep burning through tires so my plan is to get some R compound for my next set so I wont be able to slide around and ruin them

I'll be honest, they weren't my first choice but I got a smokin deal. :popcorn:
I'm burning through the RS3s that are currently on them, but I have a set of 71r on the stock wheels waiting to be transferred over.

I heard those are not bad. I ran Nitto Invo's for half a season as a DD tire last year and love them as far as DD tires go, but its time I get some real grip since I invested a ton into suspension that will be going on this spring. I think I will be going with these Nittos link this year. Do you think those are a little overkill for a DD? lol

What's wrong with 17x9 if they are lighter than stock? If I stay with 17" I'd get these Apex wheels. Made for our cars. Can use stock centercaps and tmps, right bore so no centering rings required, and plenty of space for some BBK's.

Apex ARC-8

Hell no! If you can afford to run the NT01s then go for it. Especially since you are pleased with the brand. They're gonna look so good stretched across your wheels.:party0030:
I went with the Stones because they were the new hawtness, and it turns out that I really like them.

Wider will mean more contact patch and that effects everything including suspension geometry (slightly). It will make the car harder to steer and scrub off more speed in the corners (this is only slight and only at track level driving that most people will never notice) as well as change the contact pressures which can decrease grip over a rough surface provided all else is equal. Scrub radius is also effected.

Now with all that being said this is something normal people wont really notice in normal driving lol. Here are a few pics to try and explain what I am getting at.

http://www.expeditionswest.com/resea...eformation.gif

http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/05/...rance-0908.jpg

http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech...%20point-M.jpg

:D I drop at least 1k on tires every year already hahaha! The Invos look dope in 225/45R/17 on OEM wheels so I can only imagine what a race tire will look like.

Good thing I'm a normal person that drives normal. . . for the most part:D

hahaha :thumbsup: yeah so people like you get to enjoy fancy nice wheels and people like me worry about the smallest little details rather then just driving hahaha

While I understand this in concept, I'm not sure I agree with it in reality. Isn't the concern with powdercoating the heating of the wheel, thereby changing the grain structure and brittleness of the wheel? I believe powdercoating is done around 400 degrees F.
Maybe that's too hot for a wheel. I just don't know. But how hot do wheels get on the track? 300 in an extended session? Probably hotter at the hub and not that hot at the barrel. Thoughts?

Simple:

The cars got bigger, factory wheels got bigger.

There are simply more cars with factory tire width of 215 (or larger). Back in my days (mid-90s), cars had 185 or 195 tires and wheel widths were in the range of 5.5 to 6.5"

Now, 7" is the OE norm and the aftermarket adjusts accordingly.

-alex

BTW, THE lightest 17" i found, that is still made & can be bought by mortals, happens to also be 17x7 with weight of 6.0kg. Yes, there are few forged (and some magnesium forged) 17" that are lighter (by AG Forged, Veloxx, Racing Hart, Watanabe), but most of them are discontinued, and have to be hunted in used wheel sales. Lightest cast one also is 17x7 (Kosei K4R) with weight of 6.35kg.

Though imho 17x8 still has something even for pragmatically minded ones. It can fit most of tires for 17x7 just fine, not that much heavier (eg. TWS T66-F 17x8 is 6.32kg), but if ever needed to, one can slap also wide & sticky tires on them. A bit like of one wheel set for most uses.

17x7 with stickier tires (compared to stock)

given that my engine is still basically bone stock (intake and exhaust only), the car feels so much lighter on it's feet again compared to when i was on 17x9 with 245 tires. it also helps a lot that they're super light too

My comments are regarding my personal experience with having (2) sets of wheels (RPF1s) powdercoated. I kick myself for not having more scientific data to support my experience :bonk:
The actual wheels had smudges on the face of the wheel. Almost as if someone rubbed that section of the wheel while it was hot. It resembled running your finger through butter. Aside from what looked to be cosmetic, the wheels never gave me any problems (holding air, cracks, etc.).