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Tcoat 02-03-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 2534399)
Interesting then that Scion's are some of most modded cars by dollar amount spent per car then right? There's an interview with an Executive at Scion from around the 2013 launch on youtube where he discusses this a little. Basically saying that Scion owners spend more money in the aftermarket than owners of any other make by quite a margin. Of course they could be talking about decals from Autozone, but I doubt that cheap stuff would add up to enough $$ to make this a strategy to build a brand on.

Probably dealer modded dollars he was talking about. There is a crap load of things you can buy for all the Scions (except the FRS but it was never a real "Scion" from day one)

jcblown13 02-03-2016 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gearbanger (Post 2533489)
If its badged a Toyota maybe Ill finally buy one. lol



Yea, lol.


I doubt it though. you sound champagne BMW 1 series type class.

ToySub1946 02-03-2016 09:30 PM

Wow, 22 pages since 6am...is this a record ?



How about badges which can be changed from the driver's seat electronically...or remotely from smart phones, whilst at work or in bed.

B$ 02-03-2016 09:32 PM

Can I get free Toyota badges now...lol

extrashaky 02-03-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2534482)
Wow, 22 pages since 6am...is this a record ?

I ain't reading all this shit.

Tcoat 02-03-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2534482)
Wow, 22 pages since 6am...is this a record ?

Record with out ban threats and Mod deleted posts at any rate.

Tcoat 02-03-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2534485)
I ain't reading all this shit.

Summary:
Hooray Scion is gone
Saw it coming
See clickbaits are not always wrong
Will our cars be worth more now (Repeat dozens of times)
No just a rebadge worth the same
Hooray Scion is gone
Now they will cost more/cost less/stay the same (pick one)
Oh god where are we going to get parts/service
Hooray Scion is gone (again)
Everybody will want Scion badges now better stock up
Hooray Scion is gone

ToySub1946 02-03-2016 09:41 PM

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Will the crickets leave along with the Scion badge ?

KalbiCool88 02-03-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2534496)
Will the crickets leave along with the Scion badge ?

No unfortunately those are here to stay - regardless of branding...

Tcoat 02-03-2016 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KalbiCool88 (Post 2534503)
No unfortunately those are here to stay - regardless of branding...

But they will be regarded to be a higher class cricket and it will be an honour to host them!


https://www.dollhse.com/index2/files...ls/t_22304.gif

stevesnj 02-03-2016 09:51 PM

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soulreapersteve 02-03-2016 09:57 PM

I wonder if Hachi (Master admin) is going to change the titles of buttons and links on the forum to "Toyota FRS" now.


Wait, this isn't Random Thoughts.

funwheeldrive 02-03-2016 09:58 PM

http://i.imgur.com/XUbG3Mo.jpg

KR-S 02-03-2016 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2534520)
I wonder if Hachi (Master admin) is going to change the titles of buttons and links on the forum to "Toyota FRS" now.


Wait, this isn't Random Thoughts.

I think it'll remain the same. It's not like the Scion badges on my FR-S will magically become Toyota badges once Scion is completely phased out by the end of the model year.

soulreapersteve 02-03-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2534529)
I think it'll remain the same. It's not like the Scion badges on my FR-S will magically become Toyota badges once Scion is completely phased out by the end of the model year.

Hey, you'll never know.

The magical badge fairy will swoop down on all our cars and debadge/rebadge for us overnight!

SolemnWishes 02-03-2016 10:17 PM

Seems to me like a lot of people are eager for this consolidation. For me it is more bittersweet.

Toyota's brand never appealed to me, probably because of my distaste for the Celica and Supra. While I respected Scion's experimental methods and enjoyed the purchasing process, I never developed an enthusiasm for Scion's brand either.

Nonetheless, my FR-S is the first car to my name, my choice, work, sweat, and dollars. So no matter how much I might enjoy more powerful and advance cars in the future, my little coupe will always have a special place in my heart.

And whatever debate there might be about the genealogy of the GT86/BRZ/FR-S, mine is yellow and came with a Scion badge. It is at least some part Scion. So I am still sad to see its badge retired. Yet it is also sweet, to see the embattled brand finally laid to rest.

Undeniable the GT88/BRZ/FR-S/FT86/2nd-gen-Hachi-Roku, or whatever you choose to call it, evokes a different feeling for each and everyone of you. But Scion gifted me with my SO's anger and envy, and it deserves at least a few sincere words from me.

Goodnight enthusiasts.

Tcoat 02-03-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2534529)
I think it'll remain the same. It's not like the Scion badges on my FR-S will magically become Toyota badges once Scion is completely phased out by the end of the model year.

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Originally Posted by soulreapersteve (Post 2534531)
Hey, you'll never know.

The magical badge fairy will swoop down on all our cars and debadge/rebadge for us overnight!

Steve in his driveway through August:


http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...73650943-4.gif

Bristecom 02-03-2016 11:14 PM

Wow! Big news! Great news actually! Scion is dead! Long live Toyota!

This should also mean no more PurePrice or MonoSpec BS so I might actually be able to get a higher trim model like you can everywhere else in the world, and be able to negotiate prices.

Now Japan just needs to look into ridding the shady dealer add-ons. I've stopped by every Toyota dealer in my area and with every Scion FR-S they get, they load it with tint, pin-stripe stickers, cheap LED lights in the fog area, green tire valve caps/nitrogen, and other cheap add-ons for hundreds of dollars more. So I straight up told the sales reps that walked up to me, "No, sorry, I don't want it because you've loaded it up with all this garnish that I don't even want." And they said, "You're beating a dead horse. If you want our cars, you have to get our garnish." So I told them, "No, I'll just have to go to another state to buy from a dealer that doesn't do this crap then."

WolfsFang 02-03-2016 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2534473)
Probably dealer modded dollars he was talking about. There is a crap load of things you can buy for all the Scions (except the FRS but it was never a real "Scion" from day one)

I wish I had options when I bought my FRS, hell I had to wait almost 2 weeks for my STOCK head unit to come in.

dnieves 02-03-2016 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2533011)
I liked the tC and highly considered it before I bought the FR-S



I have a 2008 tC (bought new) and that thing is built like a tank (it's slow but it's typical Toyota reliability).

1GiantTurtle 02-04-2016 12:06 AM

http://i.imgur.com/WpsIh2B.jpg

They do listen to the surveys

Hyper4mance2k 02-04-2016 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2534496)
Will the crickets leave along with the Scion badge ?

No, they come pre-installed in the BuRRRRZ as well.

Mr.Impreza 02-04-2016 12:56 AM

http://s22.postimg.org/dviwfeett/2pm...080p_03797.jpg

Marco_86 02-04-2016 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 2533656)
That argument is getting old. Fact is, that's a big reason why the car wasn't a huge hit in the states.

It's getting just as old as people whining for more powaa.

Cal3000 02-04-2016 02:02 AM

Lol at people celebrating over an emblem change.

Turbo95eg6 02-04-2016 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal3000 (Post 2534781)
Lol at people celebrating over an emblem change.

Death to glow in the dark emblems, what's not to celebrate?

In fact, Toyota should provide emblems swaps to all past FRS owners free of charge.

86geek 02-04-2016 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 2534793)
In fact, Toyota should provide emblems swaps to all past FRS owners free of charge.

so should Subaru change badges too? LMaO!
Seriously dude why would they swap badges! That would cost tons of $$$ to do. Toyota isn't about giving freebies unless there is some recall on their cars.

peeps should not be so worried bout losing the Scion brand. it's like peeps got their bvd's all bunched up in their okole's (< lookup that word) over this whole Scion axed. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::lol::lol::lol:

dori. 02-04-2016 02:49 AM

I wonder what the implications are for the Scion Racing program.

ronboogieon 02-04-2016 02:54 AM

Watch in a couple of years the cool kids will be swapping their Toyota badges for Scion badges on their next gen Toyota FRS

chaoskaze 02-04-2016 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dori. (Post 2534818)
I wonder what the implications are for the Scion Racing program.

hopfully it will just be part of the toyota team. I think that's actually good cuz toyota don't really race anything other then camry in nascar....>___> ( I mean atleast in US)

STZ 02-04-2016 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal3000 (Post 2534781)
Lol at people celebrating over an emblem change.

Hey, it matters to some people.

I, for one, didn't really like to be associated with a brand that's completely a marketing gimmick. Especially when the marketing gimmick is "our cars are cool and hip" and "if you don't know shit about cars but want to look cool buy a scion".

However, I could deal with that, because a brand is just a brand and it's still truly a Toyota. I also don't really care what other people think; it was more of a choice not to buy Scion based on personal principle.

What put the nail in the coffin and had me looking at the BRZ as a first priority instead is the monotrim philosophy of Scion. I plan to keep this car for a long time, so I'd gladly shell out the extra 2 grand for the HIDs, climate control, rear spoiler, and better seats. Being keyless is neat too. The two things I like better about the FRS are the front design and the tachometer being easier to read. Red on white is pretty distinct compared to everything orange. I've found that the front of the BRZ has grown on me though. Every car designer is making their cars aggressive and angry so it's starting to look silly and like a fad.

A personal gripe that they may or may not change is the naming of the model as "FRS". It clashes with the "GT86" on the fender flares.

I was going to buy a new BRZ when the 2017 MY details were revealed but now it seems I have to wait a bit to see if Toyota will bring in the GT86 as a trim.

Maybe I should just say fuck it and go buy a BRZ tomorrow and be done with all this. :lol:

Tcoat 02-04-2016 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 2534793)
Death to glow in the dark emblems, what's not to celebrate?

In fact, Toyota should provide emblems swaps to all past FRS owners free of charge.

The under 1% that had glow in the dark emblems?

Allch Chcar 02-04-2016 07:27 AM

10 pages about an Official badge swap... A couple comments caught my eye.

The $20k goal was in a magazine from 2007. Even 8 or 10 years ago doesn't inflate the value enough to cover the difference. Toyota/Subaru never hit the price or weight targets from the rumormill. I don't remember what their internal targets were but they were close if I remember right.

There are several decent cars from hothatches to american muscle in the sub $30k market today. Only one is a "traditional sports car" and that is the MX-5. The designations are just marketing terms that were made up to sell cars.

I never placed any more or less value between Scion and Toyota badges. Even the Subaru badge doesn't mean much to me. I don't place a lot of emotional value on corporate badges.

Summerwolf 02-04-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco_86 (Post 2534764)
It's getting just as old as people whining for more powaa.



Yet everyone is excited when anything about more power out of the factory comes up. lol

Dadhawk 02-04-2016 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by STZ (Post 2534876)
I, for one, didn't really like to be associated with a brand that's completely a marketing gimmick....

Isn't pretty much any branding some form of a "marketing gimmick"? That's pretty much the definition of branding.

ZZT86 02-04-2016 09:02 AM

As an outsider who doesn't live in the Americas I never quite understood why on earth Toyota re-branded some of their own cars which to many in the world are perceived as class leading, highly reliable & bombproof. Almost everyone on this forum knows that the FRS is really an 86/BRZ designed, engineered & built by Toyota/Subaru !

cycleboy 02-04-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PresiO. (Post 2532925)
They are just rebadging the frs to toyota.. SO EVERYBODY PUT YOUR SCION BADGES BACK ON. were rare. haha

My thoughts exactly. 10 years from now when there are tons of US Toyota 86's on the road, everyone will be rebadging them as Scion because they're rare!

I don't like the Toyota logo. It still looks like a chrome uterus to me.

stevesnj 02-04-2016 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Marco_86 (Post 2534764)
It's getting just as old as people whining for more powaa.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...0&d=1452647619

Guru Woodman 02-04-2016 10:13 AM

Apparently they choose to name the Scion FR-S: The Toyota FR-S. Missed opportunity if you asked me:

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/2016...e-toyota-fr-s/

stevesnj 02-04-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Woodman (Post 2534972)
Apparently they choose to name the Scion FR-S: The Toyota FR-S. Missed opportunity if you asked me:

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/2016...e-toyota-fr-s/

Yeh we found that out yesterday :thumbup:


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