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SurfAndSand 02-01-2016 06:04 PM

2004 Mazdaspeed Miata or keep my 10 Series?
 
hey all

I'm an old NB Miata owner who has moved on to other cars and right now I'm in a limited edition Scion FRS. I love the FRS, but I have the opportunity to get into a 2004 MSM in pretty good condition. It's been resprayed to take care of some rust, but otherwise seems to be in excellent condition.

Can anyone here provide any insight to my situation? Thanks!

DAEMANO 02-01-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfAndSand (Post 2530517)
hey all

I'm an old NB Miata owner who has moved on to other cars and right now I'm in a limited edition Scion FRS. I love the FRS, but I have the opportunity to get into a 2004 MSM in pretty good condition. It's been resprayed to take care of some rust, but otherwise seems to be in excellent condition.

Can anyone here provide any insight to my situation? Thanks!

Unless you really want a convertible or really want Miata-style handling (body roll and "playfulness" vs 86 handling (flatter cornering and communicativeness) there's really nothing a Mazdaspeed Miata can do that an 86 can't do just as well (if not better). The blown Mazda will feel mid-range torquier but has boost lag. Your FR-S revs higher and more smoothly and can easily have the torque improved with a tune and header without losing its' superior redline and that rev happy nature. The Miata's top comes down. The 86 has an emergency back seat and decent cargo carrying capacity. You choose but to me a 10 year old MSM is pretty much a downgrade every way you look at it.

2014 FR-S vs 2004 Mazdaspeed MX-5

BHP: 200 @ 7000 RPM vs 178 @ 6000 RPM
Torque: 151 @ 6400 RPM vs 168 @ 4500 RPM
Curb Weight: 2750 lbs vs 2529 lbs
Redline 7200 vs 6500
MPG: 22/30 vs 23/28
0-60: 6.2 vs 6.7
1/4 mi: 14.8 @ 94.3 MPH vs 15.3 @ 89MPH

Link for reference
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...iata-road-test

go_a_way1 02-01-2016 07:15 PM

Why would you buy basically an older car with more miles that does almost the same thing?

SuperDave 02-01-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2530626)
Why would you buy basically an older car with more miles that does almost the same thing?

more torque.

go_a_way1 02-01-2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave (Post 2530677)
more torque.

Lol my torque wrench produces more torque then both these cars... combined!

shellslinger 02-01-2016 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2530698)
Lol my torque wrench produces more torque then both these cars... combined!

You cheeky bastard

fatoni 02-02-2016 01:14 AM

you need to mention prices because thats a big deal. i think as far as fun, the cars are almost the same. the miata is more fun because if you wreck it, it doesnt hurt your soul as bad

RichardsFRS 02-02-2016 08:10 AM

Makes no sense losing a new car to get an old car but I've seen a lot of stuff that makes no sense. I guess do what makes ya happy

JimR 02-02-2016 09:35 AM

From an autocross perspective, the gearing is uselessly short on the Mazdaspeed. It has the 4.10 rear gear, 6,500 RPM redline, and close-ratio six-speed. You can adjust things with your checkbook wrench, but they are very shift happy out of the box. That might be an annoyance to you on the street, or it might not. Drive one before you consider it.

Takumi788 02-02-2016 10:18 AM

I would keep the FRS. But......

You sell the FRS (assuming its paid off), purchase MS miata, purchase Exocet kit (with money left over from the FRS sale) then remove everything from the Miata and insert into the Exocet. Win.

Teseo 02-02-2016 12:41 PM

Miata!! Way more cheap and reliable.

murdoc 02-02-2016 12:42 PM

If it was resprayed to take care of rust, there is probably rust under the paint somewhere.

Dark 02-02-2016 01:13 PM

New ND will be faster 0-60 due to torque and gearing. It's also lighter and has a lot of modern features. And like murdoc said, if rust is a concern, get the newer a Mazda. Later Mazda frame has better anti-corrosion paint. If you're on a certain budget, keep the car, otherwise get a '16 ND Club.

Celica00 02-02-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark (Post 2531523)
New ND will be faster 0-60 due to torque and gearing. It's also lighter and has a lot of modern features. And like murdoc said, if rust is a concern, get the newer a Mazda. Later Mazda frame has better anti-corrosion paint. If you're on a certain budget, keep the car, otherwise get a '16 ND Club.



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