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TrackSpec Hood Louvers
One of the major challenges with the FT86, is the ability to extract heat out of the engine bay. While a stock car that is street driven doesn't have any problems staying within normal operating temperatures, cars that are Forced Induction, or are driven hard on the track often have overheating issues.
Another occurrence the more spirited drivers may have noticed, is that the stock hood "flaps" at higher speeds. There is a lot of air trapped under the hood, and to escape, the air wobbles the stock hood, escaping out the side. This produces a few undesirable effects: extra drag, front end lift, and a general feeling of uneasyness about the hood staying in place. CSG is proud to introduce the TrackSpec Motorsports Hood Louver/Heat Extractor Vents for the FRS/BRZ/GT86. A major design hurdle was finding a proper model of the FRS/BRZ/GT86 to perform CFD analysis to determine the effectiveness of the hood. Such analysis is often performed, but CSG and TrackSpec discovered that all of the commonly available models had some major flaws: they all assume a flat underbody, and they do not model inside the engine bay at all! With such a flawed model, the analysis would also be heavily flawed, so we set about seeking to make our own model. Unfortunately, with the budget we have, it was impossible to laser scan such a complex shape (the underbody, and more importantly, the engine bay) to get the level of accuracy we sought. This led us to use the flawed models, with some modifications, to attempt to simulate airflow through the engine bay. This data, being flawed, was taken with a grain of salt, and was used only to try different shapes, angles, and sizes of vents, which would ultimately be verified with real world testing. Due to the complexity of the actual car, real world testing would be the only feasible way to get accurate measurements (we don't have the budget for windtunnel testing... sorry!). The end result of this testing, is the vent pictured below. The vent is designed to drop into the stock hood, and does several things: - an overall 43% drop in under-hood pressure at highway speeds - a 60% drop in under-hood pressure at 120mph! - A net front downforce (we had to add wing angle during testing to balance the now-grippier front) - Increased cooling (less pressure under the hood = more air flowing through the radiator; more air being extracted = more air flowing through the radiator) The above claims were verified with real-world data, and tested at Willow Springs Intentional Raceway, aka "The Fastest in the West" at speeds up to 130mph under race conditions. MSRP is $329.99, and are now available at http://counterspacegarage.com/produc...-frs-gt86.html http://counterspacegarage.com/media/...r/brz_main.jpg http://counterspacegarage.com/media/...brz_rear_1.jpg http://counterspacegarage.com/media/..._profiler1.jpg http://counterspacegarage.com/media/...rz_frontr1.jpg http://counterspacegarage.com/media/..._brz_speed.jpg http://counterspacegarage.com/media/...r/brz_data.jpg https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...97302688_o.jpg |
Nice real world testing. You have pretty specific measurements of the reduction on pressure but nothing on temperature?
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We did do some testing for anecdotal evidence; we disconnected our fans completely, and still didn't overheat during the sessions. With the stock hood, or even one of the Seibon vented hoods, the car normally will overheat within a lap on stock fans. |
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Race cars, that have a fully evacuated/stripped/tucked engine bay, can run without a fan, but street cars cannot. A stock FRS, without fans, would not survive at the track, because air can't go through the radiator very well, when there is a build up of pressure inside the engine bay. That pressure buildup is primarily what these vents are designed for, and the hosing you see on the car is connected to manometer (manometers measure pressure). |
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Wow! yeah, I guess the CSG car wouldn't have cooling issues. |
Are we able to see an under the bonnet pic. Really interested in the structural strength and how it is maintained as it appears that it is cut out. Our state is just really finicky about structural changes.
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Nice design. But I wonder where the water goes when its raining. Can we see a picture from underneath?
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We'll have some pictures for you shortly. Everyone is at the track so there is nobody around to take a picture of the underside of the hood :)
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About time someone released a vented hood solution with some actual thought behind it! :burnrubber:
Sincerely, Zach |
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We use two of these. https://webstore.spalusa.com/content..._2038_SPEC.pdf At about 275whp, we were overheating the car quite easily. Swap the stock shroud with a CSG shroud (or any shroud that fits really), two of those fans, and voila, zero heat issues. As you stated, we have quite a bit of restriction in front of the fan, so we use the fan that maintains the most flow under pressure. As an aside, the CSG s2k, with about 450whp, overheated with the stock fans on the stock radiator, at the track. That's obviously predictable. Without any fans the car still overheats. Add *one* of these Spal fans, and zero heat issues. We even added it to the passenger side of the radiator, which is the less ideal solution due to the S2k's radiator design (inlet about 70% of the way to the passenger side, outlet on the driver side). Often times, real world results trump theory, especially when we're talking street cars with street car cooling systems, rather than the fully sealed and ducted systems often seen on race cars. I've lost count of how many overheating FI cars have come to us and had their issues solved with just a simple fan shroud and powerful fan setup. Vents further enhance the effectiveness, just by allowing more air to flow, whether the powerful fans are present or not. |
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I am not saying fans won't fix an issue, but fans will not outflow normal flow through a radiator. |
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We have an FMIC, 2 oil coolers, and AC condenser in front of our intercooler. An FMIC or heat exchanger + 1 oil cooler + AC Condenser is the most common configuration we see, and unfortunately with that much restriction, you don't get anywhere near the flow you need to keep cool at the track. |
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@CSG Mike Thats a really nice design. Only question is where does the water go when it rains? Does it go inside? Thanks
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So are these any different than the S2000 ones? @Reaper installed the S2000 ones on his car. I am considering a set for my S2000 as well.
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A cover is in the works for cars that are being parked in the rain, but the covers are *not* designed to stay on the car when the car is being raced. |
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We have the S2000 vents too, but for pure cooling purposes, they're interchangeable (but not ideal). |
Hey Mike, it's Gilbert.
Think we can make these fit with the VIS AMS Hood? If you have dimensions of the placement, I can measure it up. http://www.stancenation.com/wp-conte...G_75131860.jpg Cheers, Gilbert |
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So I just got my set in today and the kit looks great. Well detailed instructions with solid card stock templates to setup cut lines for this. Will post pictures and more this weekend when I do the install.
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So glad you guys are selling these. I expect to purchase soon since summer is approaching.
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will order these once rain solution is ready :thumbup:
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This is assuming that the rounded corners are actually "sharp" edges for the sake of measurement. |
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I was looking for CSG radiator shroud on your website but I didnt find it
can you help with a link @CSG_mike Sent from my 86 using Tapatalk |
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Looks like they extend down under the hood quite a bit. Will they work with the Edelbrock supercharger?
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Photo courtesy of CamAutoMag.com.
I have been testing the Trackspec Motorsports hood vents since last year and I 100% concur with CSG's statements regarding cooling and the aero balance change. These are simply the most effective vents available. |
Track Spec Vents Track Tested
2/21/2016 (no vents) vs 3/19/2016 (vents installed)
Track: Thunderhill West Ambient Temps: 70-75 F for both days Setup: JRSC 8psi pulley on e85 (330 whp), ACE 350 Header, ACE FP, Tein SRC coilovers, 255/40/17 Nitto NT-01 tires Lap Times: 1:25:50 (2/21/2016) vs 1:25:30 (3/19/2016) Here is a single session (blue is with Track Spec Hood Vents, red is without): Top graph is Coolant Temp, bottom is Oil Temp https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...86101641_o.jpg Here is a zoomed in shot to the fastest lap on each day (blue is with Vents): Top graph is Coolant Temp, bottom graph is Intake Temp https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...94025358_o.jpg As far as aerodynamics is concerned, I noticed less understeer this time around. This makes me happy. Here is some fun footage from 3/19 chasing my friend's BRZ who has pretty much the exact same setup minus the supercharger but + aero. These laps were not for fastest time, just for some fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pc1...ature=youtu.be |
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@CSG Mike
Few questions as I really am interested in a set of these. 1.) How does cutting through the hoods supports effect the overall strength of the hood? 2.) Any rain guards developed? Stuck parking outside all the time :( I have been looking at the velox louver kit but I kind them too small for my taste however they don't cut through the reenforcement ribs on the hood and they also come with rain guards. I notice my oil temps getting way up there during my sprinted drives, thinking the oil cooler route but I don't track enough (just some autocross) so I've wondered if venting my hood would be a better route. The CSG ones look badass as well ;) Edit: Also N/A but going flex fuel soon. |
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2. In the plans, but not super high on the priority list; we had a bunch of owners drive through pouring rain to get to 86CUP last weekend, and also park outside in the rain overnight, with zero issues. If your oil temps are high, you need an oil cooler; hood louvers will not help much with oil temps without an oil cooler. You don't have to be at the track to be driving hard enough to get oil temps up. |
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