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-   -   2013 intake manifold vs 2017 Aluminium intake manifold (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113064)

Bobster 11-19-2016 07:33 AM

2013 intake manifold vs 2017 Aluminium intake manifold
 
Hi Guys,

Anyone upgraded and can provide and reviews or dyno's.

go_a_way1 11-19-2016 08:49 AM

Try searching (pro tip on Google this sites search sucks) there are a few threads already. For high boost FI applications there seems to be some gains but not enough for me to justify. Plus I hate the red lol

Lantana frs 11-19-2016 12:08 PM

I wish Subaru would be honest about the reasons behind the aluminum intake so less money will be wasted on this "upgrade".

go_a_way1 11-19-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantana frs (Post 2800048)
I wish Subaru would be honest about the reasons behind the aluminum intake so less money will be wasted on this "upgrade".

Its red so people will buy it. Also its more fun saying the welds on your intake manifold will blow.... cant say that about a plastic one :thumbup:

Lantana frs 11-19-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by go_a_way1 (Post 2800071)
Its red so people will buy it. Also its more fun saying the welds on your intake manifold will blow.... cant say that about a plastic one :thumbup:

Not to mention heat soak. Lol. I see advantages with f.I. but beyond that jdm bullshit. Lol

Calum 11-19-2016 03:05 PM

Are there any significant changes to the runner lengths or diameters? Or the plenum size?

CSG Mike 11-20-2016 01:43 PM

No appreciable difference after tuning my 17 (NA)

Lantana frs 11-20-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2800473)
No appreciable difference after tuning my 17 (NA)

What kind of gains did you see from tuning?

bfsnail 11-20-2016 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lantana frs (Post 2800489)
What kind of gains did you see from tuning?

I assume no appreciable difference

CSG Mike 11-20-2016 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lantana frs (Post 2800489)
What kind of gains did you see from tuning?

Apples and orange... I have a header and flex fuel. I'm sitting at about 200whp, with the OEM front pipe in place. Car pulls on S2ks.

Lantana frs 11-20-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bfsnail (Post 2800501)
I assume no appreciable difference

I meant overall. I was wondering how my17 responded to tuning.

Hawk77FT 11-20-2016 05:27 PM

If the size of the runners is different I can only assume there will also be a difference in the torque or power outcome. On the other hand however, whether that is worth it, it is debatable. Heat soak (there is a solution to that) is one of my concerns though.

Tcoat 11-20-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobster (Post 2799979)
Hi Guys,

Anyone upgraded and can provide and reviews or dyno's.

The official number for that whole upgraded package is 5 HP. That is with a new exhaust, intake, internals, manifold and tune. So how much difference can the manifold alone make? Probably not even measurable on a dyno since it will be well under the margin of error of the equipment. In fact if you simply bolted this on your 13 and did not tune for the changes you could actually lose HP not gain it. If after the bling factor it could be worthwhile but as far as performance goes this would be the worst HP per dollar spent you could get.

Calum 11-20-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2800582)
The official number for that whole upgraded package is 5 HP. That is with a new exhaust, intake, internals, manifold and tune. So how much difference can the manifold alone make? Probably not even measurable on a dyno since it will be well under the margin of error of the equipment. In fact if you simply bolted this on your 13 and did not tune for the changes you could actually lose HP not gain it. If after the bling factor it could be worthwhile but as far as performance goes this would be the worst HP per dollar spent you could get.

The tune is also different. They could have gotten that much from tuning alone.


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