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CSG Mike 05-13-2014 03:01 AM

Jackson Racing engine oil cooler for NA applications
 
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Yorba Linda, California (April 21st, 2014) – The championship-winning performance experts at Jackson Racing are proud to announce their new Engine Oil Cooler Kit for the Scion FR-S & Subaru BRZ is now available from $697.45USD.

An engine oil cooler is a must have for any track or hot climate vehicle. The FA20 engine in the FR-S/BRZ is a finely tuned high compression engine and engine oil temperatures can spike to dangerous levels even on stock cars.

The Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit was developed in-house and designed to bring optimal oil cooling to the FA20 engine. The included engine oil cooler core has been put to the test on the street and track on the Jackson Racing FR-S test mule for thousands of miles, in the cold and the heat. The Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit not only had to hold up to day to day driving, but also 100ºF track use by championship-winning racing drivers. We are proud to say this system works flawlessly, keeping oil temperatures below 240ºF on track, thus maintaining engine performance throughout on-track sessions.

The Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit utilizes the same quality engineered mounting system developed for the Jackson Racing supercharger system and uses solid factory-mounting locations, with no drilling/cutting needed. The front mount cooler system locates the engine oil cooler front and center in the bumper area, drawing outside air directly over the core.

Key Points:
• Keep oil temperatures below 240ºF in the most extreme conditions
• Thermostatic Oil Adapter allows for proper engine oil warm up when cold
• Helps maintain engine performance
• Heavily street and track tested to ensure reliability

SYSTEM FEATURES

Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Bracket
• Locates Engine Oil Cooler in Direct Air
• Mounts using Factory Locations
• No Drilling/Cutting
• Powder Coated to Resist Corrosion

Setrab 15 Row Oil Cooler
• Designed to Provide Cooling Support for both NA and Forced Induction Applications
• Unique Internal Design for Improved Oil Cooling Capability
• Factory Pressure Tested to 10bar
• Black Epoxy Finish to Resist Corrosion

Thermostatic Oil Cooler Adapter
• Integrated 185ºF Thermostat
• Includes Black Anodized Jackson Racing Adapter Spacer

-10AN Oil Cooler Lines
• Pre-Assembled at Jackson Racing
• Aeroquip OE Quality Oil Hose
• Direct Oil Cooler Installation with Full Float Hose Fittings

High Quality Metric Fasteners & Hardware

Industry Leading Customer Service & Support
• 35 Years of Proven Performance
• Full Color Installation Manual

Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit – NA Version: $697.45

FAQ

Q: Is this compatible with my Jackson Racing supercharged FR-S/BRZ?
A: This Engine Oil Cooler Kit is specifically designed for use with a Naturally Aspirated FR-S/BRZ. If you are looking to install an oil cooler for your Jackson Racing supercharged FR-S/BRZ, we recommend using our JRSC version of the Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit.

Q: Do I need to add more engine oil with the oil cooler kit?
A: Yes, an additional quart of engine oil is required when installing the Jackson Racing Engine Oil Cooler Kit.

This is a big oil cooler...

OICU812 05-13-2014 03:16 AM

So difference of (this NA) made Oil Cooler kit versus JR FI Oil cooler kit is what, mainly just the bracketing? As for if a customer bought this, then went to their SC kit what all would they expect to buy/change? It's fantastic they are having this option indeed! :clap:

I can see others that have (XYZ) Turbo or SC also being interested in this product as there are not exactly many thermostatic controlled well made OC kits out there oddly enough, so this question could be expanded to (what would it take to adopt to XYZ kit etc?...)

CSG Mike 05-13-2014 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1733265)
So difference of (this NA) made Oil Cooler kit versus JR FI Oil cooler kit is what, mainly just the bracketing? As for if a customer bought this, then went to their SC kit what all would they expect to buy/change? It's fantastic they are having this option indeed! :clap:

I can see others that have (XYZ) Turbo or SC also being interested in this product as there are not exactly many thermostatic controlled well made OC kits out there oddly enough, so this question could be expanded to (what would it take to adopt to XYZ kit etc?...)

All you do is swap brackets and lines for the FI version. All of the remaining components are retained.

In addition to the Thermostatic plate, the 9 series Setrab core is rated for about 35,000 BPU/hr (27,000-39,000 based on flow and placement). Most of the units on the market currently are around 27,000 BTU/hr, and are just barely handling the load of NA applications on track.

OICU812 05-13-2014 03:43 AM

That is cool. So if someone has a Vortech, or say a FBM kit etc,,,, they would need to then specify the FI version is all to get the longer lines etc by sounds of things?

JR I can say is impressive with bringing out options that is for sure.

CSG Mike 05-13-2014 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1733294)
That is cool. So if someone has a Vortech, or say a FBM kit etc,,,, they would need to then specify the FI version is all to get the longer lines etc by sounds of things?

JR I can say is impressive with bringing out options that is for sure.

The FI version would be for use with the Jackson Racing Supercharger kit.

Other FI kits would need to verify fitment before ordering. If their FMIC's dont occupy the same space, then the NA version would be the better solution (it places the oil cooler more centered for maximum cooling). The challenge is that most FI kits don't consider space for an oil-air cooler, so a custom solution is needed, or an oil-water heat exchanger.

To me, having the FMIC in front of the oil cooler makes sense; if you damage the oil cooler with a rock, it can be catastrophic. If you damage a FMIC, you get a boost leak which doesn't cause major issues.

OICU812 05-13-2014 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1733299)
The FI version would be for use with the Jackson Racing Supercharger kit. Other FI kits would need to verify fitment before ordering. If their FMIC's dont occupy the same space, then the NA version would be the better solution (it places the oil cooler more centered for maximum cooling). The challenge is that most FI kits don't consider space for an oil-air cooler, so a custom solution is needed, or an oil-water heat exchanger.


Great as always thanks so much for your time!
:clap:

calibrz 05-13-2014 01:29 PM

the price is so high for this Cooler Kit, no money for it yet. but put on the list.

Lavalover 05-13-2014 06:34 PM

Not knowing really anything about oil coolers this looks like a great product. The two questions that come to mind are 1) does the oil still flow normally through the oil filter without any dead spots, in other words maintaining full filtration? and 2) is the oil pressure in the block maintained at the same level as before? Thanks in advance!

CSG Mike 05-21-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lavalover (Post 1734858)
Not knowing really anything about oil coolers this looks like a great product. The two questions that come to mind are 1) does the oil still flow normally through the oil filter without any dead spots, in other words maintaining full filtration? and 2) is the oil pressure in the block maintained at the same level as before? Thanks in advance!

1. Yes!

2. There is a measureable, but insignificant pressure drop, as with any oil cooler setup.

ayau 05-29-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1733299)
To me, having the FMIC in front of the oil cooler makes sense; if you damage the oil cooler with a rock, it can be catastrophic. If you damage a FMIC, you get a boost leak which doesn't cause major issues.

Does that happen in real life?

CSG Mike 05-29-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 1766318)
Does that happen in real life?

I've seen it happen on track.

Rock hits oil cooler. Oil cooler springs leak. Oil comes out quick at 50-80 psi. Leaves oil trail on track, car loses oil pressure, engine oil starves, spins a bearing. Oil trail on track gets other cars dirty, and sometimes a bunch of cars flying off if its at a turn.

You want to always have something guarding your oil cooler, whether its a grill, or mesh, or honeycomb.

ayau 05-29-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1766417)
I've seen it happen on track.

Rock hits oil cooler. Oil cooler springs leak. Oil comes out quick at 50-80 psi. Leaves oil trail on track, car loses oil pressure, engine oil starves, spins a bearing. Oil trail on track gets other cars dirty, and sometimes a bunch of cars flying off if its at a turn.

You want to always have something guarding your oil cooler, whether its a grill, or mesh, or honeycomb.

On the JR N/A oil cooler, what's guarding the oil cooler?

CSG Mike 05-29-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau (Post 1766531)
On the JR N/A oil cooler, what's guarding the oil cooler?

Just your front grill.

OrbitalEllipses 05-29-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1766556)
Just your front grill.

The one with the slats in it that a rock could conceivably go through?


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