Tires
 

Hi everyone,
Can anyone confirm what tires are coming on the 2020’s? Tirerack is still saying the OEM is the primacy, I thought they got rid of those and put proper summer on?

I know the TS has Pilot sports but I’m wondering what the limiteds have.
Thanks

Ps I did try a search :search:

Got my 2020 Limited back in Nov. so still got the factory tires on. They are Michelin Primacy HP 215/45R17.

Thanks for the reply. Subaru claims they are summer performance only tires which the primacys definitely are not.. interesting.

I'm really looking forward to ditching my OEM tyres.. this coming Friday the car gets new boots, Goodyear Eagles F1 Asymmetric 5.

Primacies are summer touring tires. They aren't actually meant for winter temperatures. I think you can now get all season tires as an option.

People actually keep OEM tires? Don't you just throw them away with the dealer license plate frame?

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I've had some great OEM tyres on past cars.. but mystified by the Twins OEM rubber.. all the bullshit about the OEM rubbers making it playful is nonsense.

Tires
 

I think the primacy HPs are fantastic in the summer. They have tons of feedback, they’re super predictable near and over the limit, and their grip level is perfectly adequate for daily driving. They brake hard, straight and true, and I’ve never had an emergency maneuver get compromised by them. And they last a long time for non-eco tires. It took going on stickier tires for a while to appreciate the OEM rubber for what it is.

Perhaps the 'American' Primacy is different from the UK version. I never felt confident with them, but then I was going from them to my Exige (A048r).. The UK Prius wears the same OEM rubber and I think that sums them up, great taxi tyres..

I thought the OEM tires were decently fun on the street, I never autocrossed with them though. Definitely not a girl to marry, but you can still have a good time.

Could you elaborate on this please? Is this because stickier tires make the car less fun, as some claim?

I seriously had a little more fun with the Primacy tires than the Pilot considering I'm not tracking the car...yet. The Pilot are a much better overall tire but for daily driving I personally think the Primacy are a blast.

Sticker tires hold speed much better and allow you to drive far more aggressively without losing traction. The OEMs are pretty forgiving and let you know when you're losing traction which happens at fairly low speeds, which IMO is better for street driving. The car is still really fun with stickier tires though.

The thing people are referring to is being able to throttle oversteer on command. Tires with less grip will require less throttle and less speed to break loose. Even if you're not doing mad drifts in the city, being able to rotate the car under throttle because of this is what makes driving a RWD car fun.

Tires with more grip have higher limits, therefore require more speed and throttle before they break free. This means you have to be more aggressive or going faster to achieve that oversteer or rotation, which is not always safe on public roads.

I have no disagreement with the Primacy HP as a factory tire on such a cheap car. They are appropriate for the car's power and as a daily driven car. I do kind of wish Subaru used the same Dunlop Sport Maxx RT as the WRX factory tire for that extra turn-in sharpness.