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chaoskaze 05-09-2018 12:34 AM

ENEOS RACING Series Pro/Street
 
Eneos's new line of oil just hits the market recently. :eyebulge:
*atleast I didn't know about them till today.


Has anyone gave them a try yet? @viscositosis.rex @mav1178

http://www.eneos.us/products/eneos-racing-series/


Been using Sustina for the last 50k miles.... gonna give these bad boy a try next. :cheers:

NyC Zn6 05-09-2018 01:42 AM

I will try them out on my next oil change. I have been running Sustina from day 1.

Clipdat 05-09-2018 12:16 PM

Interesting. Wonder if it's just marketing hype or worth trying. Currently using Eneos 0w-20.

chaoskaze 05-09-2018 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NyC Zn6 (Post 3084150)
I will try them out on my next oil change. I have been running Sustina from day 1.

ohhh yesss :burnrubber::thumbsup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3084290)
Interesting. Wonder if it's just marketing hype or worth trying. Currently using Eneos 0w-20.

Just try it with us it wont hurt. :cheers:

Clipdat 05-09-2018 06:21 PM

Lemme know where you end up ordering yours from and what variety you go with.

chaoskaze 05-09-2018 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clipdat (Post 3084451)
Lemme know where you end up ordering yours from and what variety you go with.

You can order them online at http://koruworks.com/search.php?sear...=eneos&Search=

They seem to be the only place online where you can order them already.


I will be getting mine at my local auto shop Uehara motor @ vegas, Been getting my supply from them for the last 4 years & they told me they will have the racing series in 2 weeks.

I just don't know what I wanna try first yet... another thing is that racing street is actually cheaper then sustina by a dollar every QT. so that's a saving of 6 dollars every oil change if they are just as good. :P

Clipdat 05-09-2018 07:10 PM

There's a lot of marketing hype and buzzwords on the Eneos site regarding what is actually different between the Street and Pro versions. My tiny brain is having trouble figuring out which one is better.

bluesubie 05-10-2018 08:46 AM

ENEOS RACING Series Pro/Street
 
No question that you’ll want to run the street version unless you have a 100% dedicated catless track car. The details aren’t out yet but I expect the track version to have higher ZDDP and no API or ILSAC certifications.

The street version has a nice shot of zinc for anti-wear and moly for friction modification. But phosphorus is low to get the API/ILSAC certification and to keep it cat friendly. It likely also has higher detergent levels.

NOACK volatility is within allowed limits but I’m surprised that it’s at 12% when the allowed limits are 15% and the better oils are closer to 10%. Probably due to the limitations of the Group III base stocks.

wulfstan 05-11-2018 10:56 AM

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:popcorn: I will be keeping an eye on this thread... I ordered the Sustina 0w20 as I always have and saw the Racing/Street... Opted to stay with Sustina 0w20...:thanks:
Here are the spec sheets from the Eneos site between the two if that helps anyone. I've had no problems with the Sustina other than a lighter wallet, LOL.
:thumbup::lol:
Maybe someone more knowledgeable than I, can help dawn some light on the differences... I guess if I researched more, I could... but I know there are so many other "experts" out there. :thanks:

And I ordered my last case from the site mentioned previously: http://koruworks.com/search.php?sear...=eneos&Search=

viscositosis.rex 06-15-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3084129)
Eneos's new line of oil just hits the market recently. :eyebulge:
*atleast I didn't know about them till today.

Has anyone gave them a try yet? @viscositosis.rex @mav1178

http://www.eneos.us/products/eneos-racing-series/


Been using Sustina for the last 50k miles.... gonna give these bad boy a try next. :cheers:

I have not tried this new ENEOS Racing Street oil yet.

Looking at the numbers, it appears to be a highly specialized oil, intended for short term performance, and not high temperatures.

I look forward to seeing your results.

vis.

:w00t:

viscositosis.rex 06-15-2018 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesubie (Post 3084683)
No question that you’ll want to run the street version unless you have a 100% dedicated catless track car. The details aren’t out yet but I expect the track version to have higher ZDDP and no API or ILSAC certifications.

The street version has a nice shot of zinc for anti-wear and moly for friction modification. But phosphorus is low to get the API/ILSAC certification and to keep it cat friendly. It likely also has higher detergent levels.

NOACK volatility is within allowed limits but I’m surprised that it’s at 12% when the allowed limits are 15% and the better oils are closer to 10%. Probably due to the limitations of the Group III base stocks.

My Blackstone VOA on Sustina 0W20 actually showed phosphorus content significantly higher than zinc.

I point to high density as a positive attribute.

It astounds me that these oils with VI's of 229 and 239 have NOACK's of ~12.

I have used Ravenol 0W16 for ~ 50k miles w/10k OCI. It is designed with a reasonable NOACK, low VI, ~ 40% ester content, and 2x Mobil 1 trimer moly. It is quite stellar. PLEASE report this to Shannow.

FWIW, my new favorite oil is Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W20. VI 147. NOACK 7.6. I am now in a marathon mindset, aiming for such things as clean piston rings at 500k miles !

It is hoped that this Valvoline oil is a bluesubie approved oil, although maybe a little thin for your taste.

:)

chaoskaze 06-15-2018 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscositosis.rex (Post 3099162)
I have not tried this new ENEOS Racing Street oil yet.

Looking at the numbers, it appears to be a highly specialized oil, intended for short term performance, and not high temperatures.

I look forward to seeing your results.

vis.

:w00t:

O.O Not for high temperatures? or just basically a track oil type thing? :thanks:

viscositosis.rex 06-15-2018 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze (Post 3099307)
O.O Not for high temperatures? or just basically a track oil type thing? :thanks:

I might change my mind if it can be substantiated that ENEOS used W Base here.

The VI of 239 suggests high dose VI improvers.

Read the product description.

Teseo 06-16-2018 12:16 PM

No 5w-30?


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