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spcmafia 05-12-2021 09:11 AM

Costco Meguiars Polymer Wash and Wax Review
 
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spcmafia 05-12-2021 09:21 AM

As some of you may know, I'm all about keeping the BRZ in mint condition. There are other products out there that can probably cost a premium, and offer incredible results, but I'm always looking for alternatives that can offer similar results at a friendlier cost.

I was doing my regular Costco run and came upon the product above, never seen it before, and it seems like is an exclusive to Costco. I was interested and bought it for $15. I have yet to apply it because first I wanted to apply Meguiars Mirror Glaze Synthetic Sealant 2.0. Which has worked well so far after 2 days of rain and the dreaded pollen.
I want to see if there are any other experiences with this product as I'll also be testing the product later today and seeing how it reacts on a sealed paint surface, without waxing after the wash and dry.

I like to foam the vehicle first to loosen dirt particles, rinse, then use the two-bucket method to wash the vehicle using microfiber sponges. So I'll be testing the foaming capabilities of this product too.

Let me know what you think!

RayRay88 05-12-2021 04:20 PM

I wonder how it is compared to the Ultimate Wash & Wax. I've always been a fan of the Gold Class and just recently picked up a jug of the Ultimate.

I liked the Ultimate spray wax/detailers as well and have recently switched to the Hybrid Ceramic series.
All of these meguiars products are great. Easy to find, cheap and go on sale often. Hard to tell the difference in beading and color depth vs say Colonite or other traditional carnuba waxes and a fraction of the effort.

KMA KiCKz 05-12-2021 04:54 PM

I'm a sucker for Meguiar's products. Decent stuff without the premium price.

Following to gain more knowledge on this and possibly swoop one myself on the next costco run.

BrahmaBull1990 05-12-2021 11:28 PM

I would love to hear some thoughts, too. I need to buy a whole car wash kit so I may just guinea pig this if we do not have any anecdotes yet.

radroach 05-13-2021 12:16 AM

I use mostly Meguiar's stuff. But I don't use wash and wax products on my BRZ because I think wax product in your wash degrades the black plastic trim pieces.

Years ago I tried meguiar's wash n wax stuff on my BRZ, with the banana-colored soap and wasn't too impressed and became worried it wasn't good for my plastics, so I ditched it.

radroach 05-13-2021 12:19 AM

@BrahmaBull1990 I recommend checking Chemical Guy's wash products if you haven't built your wash and detailing kit.

Every summer I buy a new Chemical Guy's wash mitt, a bottle of Mr. Pink wash, and a bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate wax. Every time I wax I just use a new microfiber towel.

BrahmaBull1990 05-13-2021 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 3432057)
@BrahmaBull1990 I recommend checking Chemical Guy's wash products if you haven't built your wash and detailing kit.

Every summer I buy a new Chemical Guy's wash mitt, a bottle of Mr. Pink wash, and a bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate wax. Every time I wax I just use a new microfiber towel.

Added to the list! Thank you. Sounds bad but I use an automatic car wash far too often and I need to start waxing it properly, especially with the weather improving.

I still have two bottles of Avalon King ceramic to test out from their Black Friday sale.

spcmafia 05-13-2021 06:04 PM

Alright! Just finished washing the car and is looking great. Uploading review soon!


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spcmafia 05-13-2021 06:40 PM

Here it goes. Reviewing the Costco Meguiars Polymer Wash and Wax car wash.
I will be reviewing the overall value of the product considering the results.
To begin with, the bottle costs $15, for a 128oz bottle.
Car wash conditions were mostly cloudy skies, outside temperature of 64F with 30% humidity. This affects how well soap\wax settles on the paint. The vehicle surface was covered in pollen, but I had already applied the Mirror Glaze Sealant over the weekend. See image below.
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We being with gathering all required tools. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...dc9e65c353.jpg

This included a buffer, clay, ceramic wax, pressure washer and foam cannon.
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Two buckets of water, one for clean water, and one for soapy solution. For this I used 1/2 cup of our Meguiars Wax/ Wash soap for about a gallon of water.
Next is the foam cannon
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As you can see on the picture, I used approx 1/3 of a cup of the same soap. I wanted to see how well it foams.
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Above is the image of the water/soap mixture.

Step 1. Foaming the vehicle:
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Foaming was incredibly easy and it really produces a thick foam. You can notice how it almost doesnít stick because of the paint sealant that was mentioned above, but considering the chemicals in the soap, it reacted quite well against the surface. I give it 9/10 for foaming capability.

Step 2, Rinse :
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For this step you can almost see how clean and shiny the surface already is. Without scrubbing with a microfiber sponge.

Step 3 scrubby scrub:
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This step yielded good results, Iím assuming the same thing happened as the foaming, where the surface being sealed prevented a thick layer of soap.

Step 4, rinse again:
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This is where it gets interesting. I was very impressed with the reflection of the paint after the second rinse. You can almost admire certain water bending being present.

Step 5, Dry.
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At this point of the day I had some clouds blocking the sun, but the results were amazing. The car was shiny, paint was smooth. It almost didnít need a waxing to protect the sealant and add another layer of paint protection. Drying the car was extremely easy as very little residual water was on the surface. Water bending FTW.


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spcmafia 05-13-2021 06:51 PM

Step 6: Waxing.
For this step I used the tools below https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9a7f815f87.jpg

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Step 7, polish!
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I found this step almost as overkill as it didnít really add more shine to the vehicle, maybe a 20% increase. It is more to add another layer of protection.

Final thoughts:
Do I recommend this product?
Absolutely. 100%.
Quality for value. 8/10

The fact that the vehicle already had a great finish, after the second rinse, without drying, and then even a more surprising finish after the drying, speaks volumes for this product.
Some considerations for this being an 8/10 is because I feel that the paint being sealed mightíve added more flair to the results of the soap, rather than using this on a surface that had been stripped of any wax or sealants. A clean slate.
Definitely something to look into and consider the for the next time you do a Costco run!


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KMA KiCKz 05-13-2021 07:07 PM

Well written review :clap:

Thanks for posting!

ls1ac 05-13-2021 09:34 PM

You guys might look at the reviews of 303 graphene compared to waxes and ceramic coatings. Not the $1000 but the self applied.

Wally86 05-14-2021 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1ac (Post 3432386)
You guys might look at the reviews of 303 graphene compared to waxes and ceramic coatings. Not the $1000 but the self applied.

It's on my car now and on some panels it's been on for a few weeks but I've already had to reapply to the hood/trunk/roof.

I ordered Turtlewax Flex to try the same experiment but I get the feeling I"ll be moving backward to Turtlewax paste ceramic+graphene. :bonk:

RToyo86 05-14-2021 07:39 AM

Meguiars pretty much always puts out good stuff. I personally avoid wash and wax formulas now. My belief is that a good soap with no residues or waxes should do the cleaning, then apply your protection as a dry aid/post dry.
That said it if works for you then use It, I am OCD about my paint and my system has worked for the past 3 years/75,000km :D.

I used meguiars gold class then started experimenting with the "pro" or less consumer known brands.

I go back and forth between optimum car wash, Adams car shampoo and carpro reset. Reset is the most expensive stuff but works amazingly well if you have a good ceramic sealant or coating already on the car.

The other two are solid soaps I use on and off. Optimum soap is cheapest of the three so I rent to keep a 32oz on hand and use that exclusively in my wheel bucket.

spcmafia 05-14-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ls1ac (Post 3432386)
You guys might look at the reviews of 303 graphene compared to waxes and ceramic coatings. Not the $1000 but the self applied.


Of course, this is just another alternative being that it was so cheap, for a huge bottle, that yielded great results. I'll probably buy that product and do another review.

spcmafia 05-14-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3432468)
Meguiars pretty much always puts out good stuff. I personally avoid wash and wax formulas now. My belief is that a good soap with no residues or waxes should do the cleaning, then apply your protection as a dry aid/post dry.
That said it if works for you then use It, I am OCD about my paint and my system has worked for the past 3 years/75,000km :D.

I used meguiars gold class then started experimenting with the "pro" or less consumer known brands.

I go back and forth between optimum car wash, Adams car shampoo and carpro reset. Reset is the most expensive stuff but works amazingly well if you have a good ceramic sealant or coating already on the car.

The other two are solid soaps I use on and off. Optimum soap is cheapest of the three so I rent to keep a 32oz on hand and use that exclusively in my wheel bucket.


I was a bit skeptic at first too, but it was $15 so it was a win/win situation. I normally do the same as you, I normally use gold wash as it foams incredibly well ( I just like lots of foam) and it gives me a clean car to work on for sealant/wax. But I was impressed on how well this product made the car look even after the first rinse. Not to the mention the second rinse. I need to post an update and see how it hold against the summer weather with all the pollen and rains we get locally.

RToyo86 05-14-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3432472)
I was a bit skeptic at first too, but it was $15 so it was a win/win situation. I normally do the same as you, I normally use gold wash as it foams incredibly well ( I just like lots of foam) and it gives me a clean car to work on for sealant/wax. But I was impressed on how well this product made the car look even after the first rinse. Not to the mention the second rinse. I need to post an update and see how it hold against the summer weather with all the pollen and rains we get locally.

If it works with your routine that's all that matters.
There is enough stuff out there that you can pretty much build your own routine and it'll more or less end up with similar results. Given you applied the ceramic paste wax with a buffer that is now your primary protection which will probably last a couple months on its own. The wash and wax can be a decent booster layer. I know megs sells a ceramic wash and wax. It probably has similar mixture as the paste wax, but who knows if there's any noticeable difference between the Costco variant and the ceramic one. Should be a good combination for you with good results.

I don't like mixing wash and wax with my routine as it messes with the hydrophobics of my ceramic coating and topper. You can really notice if a soap has residue or waxes in it as the paint doesn't sheet water as well after it has been cleaned.

If you like suds using optimum no rinse would throw you for an absolute loop. The first time I used it.. felt so wrong. After that I started to view suds differently as I was convinced I'd scratch my paint but it just works. :lol:
Now I try to pay attention to the lubricity of the soap in the bucket, though I do like my suds.

Asphalt is a PITA to maintain. It's lovely when it's clean but like black paint it shows swirls easily.

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Up close it pops
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spcmafia 05-14-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3432490)

Asphalt is a PITA to maintain. It's lovely when it's clean but like black paint it shows swirls easily.

https://i.imgur.com/DIokoJj.jpg

Up close it pops
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My last car was black so I feel your pain, silver does a good job at hiding pollen, salt, and overall dirt. No matter that I did with my last car, the shine would never last more than a day.

ls1ac 05-14-2021 11:09 AM

For any of these products, preparation is key for lone life. I had to use a strong stripper before application to have it last. I had been using Nu finish, and getting it off was a problem. (I still use Nu finish on the trucks that sit out side all year. But may try the 303 on one next time.)

Wally86 05-14-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ls1ac (Post 3432518)
For any of these products, preparation is key for lone life. I had to use a strong stripper before application to have it last. I had been using Nu finish, and getting it off was a problem. (I still use Nu finish on the trucks that sit out side all year. But may try the 303 on one next time.)

I went wash/dry/clay/303 :iono:

I just wiped down after clay but I guess I could try IPAing instead.

ls1ac 05-14-2021 11:27 AM

There are several good chemical strippers made by Mothers and others. The old waxes need to be removed. Polishing or paint correction is not needed, and could still leave wax residue.

RToyo86 05-14-2021 11:50 AM

Carpro iron-x works really well but does it ever stink. Not sure why they bother advertising scents when they all smell awful :lol:
I've got a bottle of carpro eraser which is a good out of the box paint prep. IPA mix is probably the way to go as a more cost effect alternative.

I have been meaning to try optimum ferrex but haven't got around to picking up a bottle. You can use Optimums clay towel in conjunction with ferrex which also acts as a clay lube. I watched a friend do it who's a opti-coat installer and it saves a bunch of time during the decontamination step as you combine chemical and physical decontamination together.

RToyo86 05-14-2021 11:59 AM

Has anyone heard of meguiars wash plus?
It was a gem of a soap they released 3-4 years ago and nobody bought it so they discontinued it. It was the sort of a stripper soap that had small abrasives in it. You directly apply the soap to a wash mitt and wash the paint vs Using a bucket.

Tcoat 05-14-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RayRay88 (Post 3431940)
I wonder how it is compared to the Ultimate Wash & Wax. I've always been a fan of the Gold Class and just recently picked up a jug of the Ultimate.

I liked the Ultimate spray wax/detailers as well and have recently switched to the Hybrid Ceramic series.
All of these meguiars products are great. Easy to find, cheap and go on sale often. Hard to tell the difference in beading and color depth vs say Colonite or other traditional carnuba waxes and a fraction of the effort.

I have tried many detail sprays and found that the Ultimate Quick Detailer was the only thing that works at all with my ceramic coating. Everything else just sort of sat on top and didn't clean.
For washing the only thing I will use is the Gold Class shampoo since I don't want/need a wax while cleaning.
My car is easy but a product that will bring this result to the wife's poor neglected black beast will work on anything!

RToyo86 05-14-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3432560)
I have tried many detail sprays and found that the Ultimate Quick Detailer was the only thing that works at all with my ceramic coating. Everything else just sort of sat on top and didn't clean.
For washing the only thing I will use is the Gold Class shampoo since I don't want/need a wax while cleaning.
My car is easy but a product that will bring this result to the wife's poor neglected black beast will work on anything!

Crappy tire started carrying Adams products recently. You can get their car shampoo. I notived it was on sale this week.


Fiance and I had one of those for 2 weeks on loan. They drive decently but the top trim infotainment drove us nuts.

Tcoat 05-14-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3432564)
Crappy tire started carrying Adams products recently. You can get their car shampoo. I notived it was on sale this week.


Fiance and I had one of those for 2 weeks on loan. They drive decently but the top trim infotainment drove us nuts.

They did a bunch of updates on the HU and now it is fine. There were some bizarre things for a while though.

RToyo86 05-14-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3432580)
They did a bunch of updates on the HU and now it is fine. There were some bizarre things for a while though.

Does yours have the integrated Hvac controls built into the screen?

Tcoat 05-14-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3432584)
Does yours have the integrated Hvac controls built into the screen?

Nope. It is an 18.

RToyo86 05-14-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3432585)
Nope. It is an 18.

Ah thats the difference. We were given a brand new 2020 that was fully loaded.

Take a look at one of you ever get the opportunity. Such a blizzare decision to place Frequently used controls in a not so simple to access spot. I recall the lane keep assist kicking in because I was getting pissed off trying to adjust the vent speed.

Tcoat 05-14-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86 (Post 3432587)
Ah thats the difference. We were given a brand new 2020 that was fully loaded.

Take a look at one of you ever get the opportunity. Such a blizzare decision to place Frequently used controls in a not so simple to access spot. I recall the lane keep assist kicking in because I was getting pissed off trying to adjust the vent speed.

I will pass thank you.

sato 05-15-2021 12:28 PM

Stupid question, but is the foam canon powered by a pressure washer or a regular hose?

spcmafia 05-15-2021 07:45 PM

Costco Meguiars Polymer Wash and Wax Review
 
Some can be powered with a pressure washer, some with a regular hose, the latter depends highly on your water pressure for it to be effective. If you are referring to the foam cannon Iím using, is a pressure washer one.


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RToyo86 05-15-2021 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sato (Post 3432905)
Stupid question, but is the foam canon powered by a pressure washer or a regular hose?

A pressure washer will give you more foam.

Decep 05-16-2021 10:41 PM

I've been using the yellow stuff, "ultimate wash and wax" and topping it off with Griotts Ceramic Spray Wax. Seems to last at least a couple months. The car sits outside 24/7 and gets tree garbage, bird poop and dirt from landscapers with their damned leaf blowers, and often i'll just spray water on it to rinse it and drive to work. The Griots' stuff beads like crazy and doesn't seem to leave water spots, i guess our water here doesn't have a ton of hard minerals.

The blue "polymer" stuff is not on their website it seems? Maybe it's been replaced by a different product.

Wally86 05-17-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sato (Post 3432905)
Stupid question, but is the foam canon powered by a pressure washer or a regular hose?


Regular hose type:
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Pressure washer type:
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spcmafia 05-17-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3433316)
I've been using the yellow stuff, "ultimate wash and wax" and topping it off with Griotts Ceramic Spray Wax. Seems to last at least a couple months. The car sits outside 24/7 and gets tree garbage, bird poop and dirt from landscapers with their damned leaf blowers, and often i'll just spray water on it to rinse it and drive to work. The Griots' stuff beads like crazy and doesn't seem to leave water spots, i guess our water here doesn't have a ton of hard minerals.

The blue "polymer" stuff is not on their website it seems? Maybe it's been replaced by a different product.


I think is because it's a Costco exclusive.

sharpsicle 05-17-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3433378)
I think is because it's a Costco exclusive.

It's also available from Walmart online for those without Costco memberships (at a premium price).

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Meguiar-s...llon/934824136

Decep 05-18-2021 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia (Post 3433378)
I think is because it's a Costco exclusive.

I must have missed that. Still think it's odd it's not on their site. Wonder which is better?

RToyo86 05-18-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Decep (Post 3433640)
I must have missed that. Still think it's odd it's not on their site. Wonder which is better?

Hard to say. The blue polymer forumla advertises that they use "synthetic wax" meaning it's a sealant. The yellow wash and wax is a carnuba and sealant mixture.

Pure synthetic sealants will last longer than carnuba waxes. If I had to guess the blue polymer formula would last longer, though wash and wax aren't intended to provide long lasting protection so who knows if there is any noticeable difference.
Usually you use a similar spray on protection and the wash and wax can act as a booster.


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