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itsibarra 12-03-2014 03:26 PM

Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger
 
http://www.edelbrock.com/fa20/img/sc.gif
http://s28.postimg.org/67zfy4maz/20150501_135522.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...psglosskff.jpg

http://www.delicioustuning.com/sites...?itok=s83Jvhvk

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CSG Mike 12-03-2014 03:32 PM

Not much of a leak if they posted it themselves... I've been hinting at it for a while now :p

Raven604 12-03-2014 03:33 PM

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itsibarra 12-03-2014 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2043108)
Not much of a leak if they posted it themselves... I've been hinting at it for a while now :p

Haha, then I guess this is a teaser?
And I did see your initial post on your IG/Cosworth thread, just thought i'd share a pic :)

continuecrushing 12-03-2014 04:05 PM

hmm...in for info

calmtigers 12-04-2014 01:42 AM

Woah edelbrock on imports?

EAGLE5 12-04-2014 02:01 AM

Consider this post an inappropriate comment about how cool this is. TVS is pretty kick ass stuff. However, I'm not sure it's going to matter much in the aftermarket, where tune, exhaust, and a whole host of other things matter just as much as the type of FI used.

sw20kosh 12-04-2014 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2043108)
Not much of a leak if they posted it themselves... I've been hinting at it for a while now :p

I don't see an intercooler or provision for one... thought it is sorta hard to see what is going on there.

sko222 12-04-2014 02:28 AM

definitely going to be following this kit

CSG Mike 12-04-2014 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calmtigers (Post 2043744)
Woah edelbrock on imports?

It's been done in the past ;)

Calum 12-04-2014 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 2043759)
I don't see an intercooler or provision for one... thought it is sorta hard to see what is going on there.

That picture looks grossly photo shopped to me. Everything just looks off.

EAGLE5 12-04-2014 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 2043759)
I don't see an intercooler or provision for one... thought it is sorta hard to see what is going on there.

The intercooler sits atop the supercharger. Like the Sprintex kit flipped. Then you run a separate cooling system for the intercooler with its own radiator in the front of the car. A lot like the laminova system on the Sprintex, but I don't think it will be a laminova core. That looks like some nice engineering to me.

raven1231 12-04-2014 06:13 AM

edelbrock should be interesting. Hopefully it's not like some of the old edelbrock carburetors that made the car lose power.

jiaim 12-04-2014 08:57 AM

I'd like to see them use a 1320, both this one and the harrop looks buisness.

ATL BRZ 12-04-2014 09:52 AM

Looks like a Headcrab from Half Life.

sato 12-04-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 2043985)
Looks like a Headcrab from Half Life.

Hahaha. Tru, tru.

Not liking the red color, but with a manifold that big we could Vincent Van Gogh's Starry night portrait pained on there... Or a nice representing meme:

http://wallpaper.ultradownloads.com...._1920x1200.jpg

Either way, I'm in

keen as 12-04-2014 11:54 PM

1 Attachment(s)
from harrop facebook
"2015 TVS Supercharger kit release sneak peak.."
https://www.facebook.com/harropperfo...levant_count=1

s2d4 12-05-2014 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keen as (Post 2045193)
from harrop facebook
"2015 TVS Supercharger kit release sneak peak.."
https://www.facebook.com/harropperfo...levant_count=1

Looks like two W2A cores, much better.

itsibarra 12-05-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 2045226)
Looks like two W2A cores, much better.

Hmm I think it depends. What's the area of the cores?

ck-GT86 12-05-2014 11:49 AM

In for more.

.ck

s2d4 12-05-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsibarra (Post 2045483)
Hmm I think it depends. What's the area of the cores?

Look at the two water passages on both sides?

FIREISFUN135 12-05-2014 12:03 PM

Looks interesting, Hope it makes decent power.

Jaden 12-05-2014 12:06 PM

The e-force superchargers...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2043753)
Consider this post an inappropriate comment about how cool this is. TVS is pretty kick ass stuff. However, I'm not sure it's going to matter much in the aftermarket, where tune, exhaust, and a whole host of other things matter just as much as the type of FI used.

The e-force superchargers are big on carb cert and give good results.

I've been looking at doing a twin with the drive train from a 2013, 14 camaro ss and I was looking at using the e-force..

I would love to have a twin with the brakes, rear end, engine and trans of a camaro with the weight of a twin and an e-force making 600 hp AND be legitimately CARB legal.

But I'd still like to have my twin as a 300whp DD...

Jaden

tahdizzle 12-05-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREISFUN135 (Post 2045602)
Looks interesting, Hope it makes decent power.

If it makes at least as much power as the 210+ kit with more headroom AND gets CARB, I'll take it :P

CSG Mike 12-05-2014 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREISFUN135 (Post 2045602)
Looks interesting, Hope it makes decent power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahdizzle (Post 2045612)
If it makes at least as much power as the 210+ kit with more headroom AND gets CARB, I'll take it :P


I'd expect the kit to make around the same power as every other CARB kit, in CARB form. There's only so much you can do with CA 91.

However, there will be more than enough overhead to require a built engine to utilize the full potential of the supercharger.

Jaden 12-05-2014 02:29 PM

I just want a carb sticker...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2045789)
I'd expect the kit to make around the same power as every other CARB kit, in CARB form. There's only so much you can do with CA 91.

However, there will be more than enough overhead to require a built engine to utilize the full potential of the supercharger.

Once I have a carb sticker, I'll switch to E-85....

Jaden

actually, with the S/C's I'm developing, I'm trying to make them stealth.

Mount it under the stock air box and feed it through a front mount IC and then through the stock air box with a silicone (or aluminum) intake hose going through the stock air box and between the air box and intake manifold.

i've also considered doing a remote mount turbo INSIDE the stock muffler (although heat could be an issue (an open top with air ducting to it could minimize that though)) with disguised piping to a front IC and then hidden piping going through the stock air box. For an ultimate sleeper :bonk::burnrubber:

sw20kosh 12-05-2014 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 2045805)
Once I have a carb sticker, I'll switch to E-85....

Jaden

actually, with the S/C's I'm developing, I'm trying to make them stealth.

Mount it under the stock air box and feed it through a front mount IC and then through the stock air box with a silicone (or aluminum) intake hose going through the stock air box and between the air box and intake manifold.

i've also considered doing a remote mount turbo INSIDE the stock muffler (although heat could be an issue (an open top with air ducting to it could minimize that though)) with disguised piping to a front IC and then hidden piping going through the stock air box. For an ultimate sleeper :bonk::burnrubber:

LOL I love this type of thinking! I've had some similar thoughts.

wootwoot 12-05-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 2045805)
Once I have a carb sticker, I'll switch to E-85....

Jaden

actually, with the S/C's I'm developing, I'm trying to make them stealth.

Mount it under the stock air box and feed it through a front mount IC and then through the stock air box with a silicone (or aluminum) intake hose going through the stock air box and between the air box and intake manifold.

i've also considered doing a remote mount turbo INSIDE the stock muffler (although heat could be an issue (an open top with air ducting to it could minimize that though)) with disguised piping to a front IC and then hidden piping going through the stock air box. For an ultimate sleeper :bonk::burnrubber:

Do it! And then make me one.

sato 12-05-2014 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2045789)
I'd expect the kit to make around the same power as every other CARB kit, in CARB form. There's only so much you can do with CA 91.

However, there will be more than enough overhead to require a built engine to utilize the full potential of the supercharger.

We just hope we don't have to buy in pairs at an non-negotiable cost of $50k...

xwd 12-07-2014 10:46 AM

I would expect both the Harrop and Edelbrock to use the TVS 900, same exact supercharger as the Cosworth kit.

350matt 12-07-2014 11:51 AM

then why would you wait for the E force solution? when you can get a Cosworth kit now?

will E force kit will cheaper do we think?

also it looks like its a front breathing unit rather than from the rear so is there room for this,a dive pulley and the AC pump?

as the TRD setup was a front breathing unit but that had no AC?

Calum 12-07-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 2047381)
then why would you wait for the E force solution? when you can get a Cosworth kit now?

will E force kit will cheaper do we think?

also it looks like its a front breathing unit rather than from the rear so is there room for this,a dive pulley and the AC pump?

as the TRD setup was a front breathing unit but that had no AC?

You can see the ac compressor in the picture.

350matt 12-07-2014 12:16 PM

yes you can,

you can also see that there's almost no room to get an intake pipe, off the throttle body and past the AC pulley

maybe the angle of the picture is misleading but it looks to me like the AC pulley would have to go to get this to fit

xwd 12-07-2014 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 2047381)
then why would you wait for the E force solution? when you can get a Cosworth kit now?

will E force kit will cheaper do we think?

also it looks like its a front breathing unit rather than from the rear so is there room for this,a dive pulley and the AC pump?

as the TRD setup was a front breathing unit but that had no AC?

I think both will be considerably cheaper than the Cosworth kit, probably in the $4K range.

I think it's just a mockup, I would expect any production setup they produce to keep the A/C.

I have the TRD unit and it also uses a significantly larger throttle body than the stock one. If it were stock sized and the snout a little shorter you could potentially get a 90 degree elbow in there with the A/C still installed.

stoked_on_spool 12-10-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsibarra (Post 2043093)
This just came up on my feed...:burnrubber:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7477/...55b6b87f_o.jpg

I think the red manifold is a 3D printed mock-up and that's why it looks the color/shine it does, not because the photo was overly photoshopped :iono:

Bret

Stark Performance 12-12-2014 08:40 PM

It is pretty typical to paint prototype parts red to distinguish them from production units. That way no one accidentally sends out the prototype to a customer.

nonicname returns 12-14-2014 04:53 AM

1) looks amazing!
2)looks pricey! Very pricey.
3)I really hope they offer more colors not just
That huge chunk of red.

GT86_PRAGUE 12-14-2014 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keen as (Post 2045193)
from harrop facebook
"2015 TVS Supercharger kit release sneak peak.."
https://www.facebook.com/harropperfo...levant_count=1

Cosworth inspired?

s2d4 12-14-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT86_PRAGUE (Post 2055519)
Cosworth inspired?

Front entry vs rear entry?
Or is every twin w2a tvs setup cosworth inspired?

RFB 12-14-2014 11:52 AM

No strut bar ? No tracking ?

:iono:


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