Would you buy gr86 again?
 

My beautiful 2013 FRS came to an untimely death this past weekend against a much larger SUV that turned into her. I am looking at a 2022. Should I do it again?

Depends on whether you want something else (due to priorities or just want something else) or not.

If you just want to continue with the experience, then by all means, a GR86 is basically the same car but newer/better.

I think asking here you will get a resounding yes.
The couple of people that got them and didn't like it have already sold and moved on.

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This guy speaks the truth.

OP's question is the epitome of sourcing from a place that will only get you a biased answer.

Ultimately OP has to determine whether you liked the experience because the second one is basically more of the same but a little bit plushier.

Yes I would do it again, I did.
'16 FR-S blue. still own it.
'23 GR 86 Blue.
real original I know.

What else would you get if you didn't get a 2nd gen? That's the question. There's lots of options out there, still, from a Sports car standpoint.

It’s a fair question. I asked myself the same after 10 years with my FR-S. Was tempted to get an s2000, ND2 Miata, or Camaro SS 1LE just to get something different. After weighing all the options though, the gen 2 BRZ was too good to pass up. Best way I can put it is, imagine your FR-S with more power, nicer interior, modern amenities, more refinement (smoother shifter, lighter steering, smoother ride), and revised exterior. Other than the power difference, it’s a lot of small changes that make the car feel more premium. Not everyone wants that and sometimes I miss the rawer feel/simplicity of my FR-S, but overall the 2nd gen is really good. Just know it’s mostly an improvement of the same experience as opposed to something completely different.

If you still want this type of car there are either 3 other, or no* other options available, so the decision is simple.

*Only other 2 door, small sport coupes with fold down rear seats are Camaro, Mustang, and M2, but those are still considerably heavier so are they really competitors?

I don't think any of us can answer that for you.

I would seriously consider a late model Gen 1. Not a fan of the Gen 2, plus my priorities have changed a bit so my next vehicle will be more of a "grandpa mobile".

I would like a new generation 86 but with lack of availability and dealer gouging they can keep them

If you have to ask….

Well, maybe look around… play the field.

I know if my 2013 BRZ was no longer driveable I would move Heaven and Earth to get my fat ass into another alacantra Limited seat with all due speed.

Non negotiable.

Right now I'm looking for a Camaro SS 5th gen. I want something more different while still having the frs

Got an "offer" of limited edition (orange), they want $46k. With that.i could get a used Mustang gt PP1 or Camaro 1SS

I’m in a similar situation. A deer jump down into the road in front of me and hit it doing about 80km. I had a 13 frs and they totalled it.
I had just ordered a new truck so decided to wait and think about for a few month, before realizing I wouldn’t be happy with any other car I could afford new. Decided to drop a deposit down on a red gr86 to replace my firestorm frs. I did that back in October and got a call a few weeks ago that the only allocation my small dealer is getting for the year is my car.

Long story short, I say go for it!

Not if you want a 2+2 sub 3500lbs.

So it was between a 2022 (5k miles through Carvana, because yeah, I can't really find a new one that isn't being sold for $44k) or a new model 3 Tesla. I really wanted a new 86 or BRZ, but I couldn't find one that was reasonably priced. The Tesla would have been "fine". I guess I was just bummed that I had a find a car right now and I didn't the same choices that I did have 10 years ago. #firstworldproblems

But some good news, she isn't totaled somehow? Waiting on next steps ...

Ya the having to find a car right now is no doubt a pain. I have no clue what I would go for if I had to replace the 86 this very minute.

Yea I was completely shocked last year when they didn't total my 200,000 mile FRS after a Suburban tried to mate with it.

I'm pretty sure the repair came within a very few dollars of being the total value, if not more, of the repaired car.

Fer sure, fer sure - that ought to get you around the grounds of the retirement settlement in style - :thumbsup:

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Used cayman prices are coming down. Running costs are more but that flat 6 sound is heaven and it’s my weekend car. I use my 16 BRZ as a commuter, and if an SUV mated with it, I would certainly consider a new one, in auto of course. But I would definitely cross shop if the prices were too high. I know this, I would miss it if it was gone. My 04 WRX needs some front end work, waiting for my guy to have time. I miss that and it’s only been a month. These cars are really great if they fit your life.

What a difference from the FRS. Enjoy the comfort.

I'll be keeping the FRS as a weekend toy. That's assuming Cadillac ever manages to deliver my order. I'm #4 at my dealer.

See, I was picturing something more like this for Dadhawk...

If you can still roll with a 2DR RWD Coupe Honesty for the money new there is nothing better.

Yeah, do it again. I just replaced my Gen 1 with a 2022. Admittedly my 2017 was on coilovers etc, but if you’re after a little more comfort the Gen 2 feels ridiculously compliant compared to what I remember of mine standard. Seats are much softer too - Not necessarily better, but softer.

i wouldn't do a '22+. the newest i'd ever go would be a '19, with a strong preference to getting something '14-15, before the lcd became part of the cluster.

but even the '13 is still one of the newest cars of the type that it is. if i struck out the 86, i'd be considering 240 z's, silvia's, and mr2's a decade older.

I've owned both prior two models, go for it.

The car is different enough to engage a new car feel. The better interior, new exterior design and the power / torque placement. However, familiar enough to get into and know what to expect and be familiar with working on it.

I'd do it again.

If Harrop releases another SC for the GR86, and if I’m not blown away with the Porsches when I do the Porsche Driving Experience this summer, then I’ll probably do a GR86 with a built motor. I would have plenty of money to spend on parts if I didn’t buy a Porsche. It is just a hard package to beat.

The only way I don’t do the 86 is if I keep the BRZ as a dedicated track toy, and my daily becomes softer like a Supra, Porsche, Audi TTRS, Emira, etc., and even that is a big if. They all have flaws. The only flaw of the GR86 is the quality/premium/NVH/etc that makes it a little rougher to daily drive and a little less quality.

I ordered a 2015 BRZ new, ordered a 2023 BRZ new as well.

I think the new ones especially are perfect street cars. Quick enough to be fun, slow enough to keep you from getting in trouble. And I used to track sportbikes. Also had a '13 Mustang GT Track Pack. barking 4th gear up an onramp gets old. 1st/2nd were almost useless on the stock tires.

why wouldnt you go 20?
Unless its because of the HU i dont see why you wouldnt, since its the last year of the first gen and practically identical to the 19.

The display would really prevent you from the much improved engine?

we've all got our limits. given the choice, i don't like screens in my gauges.

yes. because it's the one part i have to stare at every time i use the car.

I agree with @soundman98 to some extent on this. Although I don't mind if the gauges are virtual, I would never buy a Tesla 3 because of the lack of a gauge cluster. Same with a Mach E, even though it has a very small gauge cluster, the tacked on iPad look just doesn't work for me.

So basically, it doesn't matter how well the car performs or looks if I can't live with the human interface, or lack thereof.

Probably not. I don't care for the facelift, or the gen 2s. I would have to find a '15 or '16 in great shape and the right color to replace mine, which would probably be a pretty tall order.

I rode in a Tesla for the first time in San Jose (Uber from airport to mom's). That giant screen would be a major "no". I think touch screens should be outlawed in cars.

I preferred the analog tachometer from the 1st gen (especially the white face one on the FR-S), but I’m used to the digital one on my BRZ2 now and it’s fine. I do love the added functionality it offers, namely showing tire pressures, oil/coolant temps, lap timer, etc.

To be fair when it comes to digital clusters and Toyota, all Toyota really does is just digitize an analog cluster...as oppose to creating some customizable ipad screen with wallpapers, screen savers and all that crap that others makes do. They get knocked for a lack of customizability...but jebus whats the point of that? It gives you all the information you need and thats pretty much it. Its a trend i hate with cars, everything has to be a screen, and everything has to have apps for some dumbass reason. Have you seen Idrive 8? One menu looks like a populated android/iphone home screen, and another looks like Jukebox UI when you're scrolling between a million different album offerings. Its so unnecessarily convoluted.

Going back to the main question, i probably wouldnt get another GR86 because
1.) priorities changed, i dont think i want another 2 door car (its mainly a family thing, getting my 2 year old kid in/out of the childseat in the back is a bit of a pain)
2.) I prefer driving a different car if i was in a position to get a new one.
3.) I think im ready to move on from the raw driving experience for something a bit more relaxed (something a bit quieter, maybe a bit less bumpy, yea Im getting old...)
4.) At this point i dont think i care whether my next car is stick or auto. Although its likely auto cuz my next preferences don't have stick options lol.

I can’t stop buying them. Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
Starting with a 2013 BRZ, 2017 BRZ, 2022 BRZ, and now waiting for a 2023 GR86 to be delivered. When will this end! I can’t find anything I like more.

The tire pressure thing is really interesting to me that it's not just standard in all vehicles.

My 2006 350Z had displays for the tire pressures and that's almost 20 years ago.