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tracerit 09-19-2016 05:05 PM

Anyone corner balance just for street driving, worth it?
 
I'm bringing my car in for my engine leak fix tomorrow and if all goes well and it's fully sealed this time around, I'm going to keep the BRZ for a while longer. Doing that, I'd want to have the car setup properly as well. I have Tein Flex Z coilovers with them set up with the stock recommended settings from Tein. I've been driving them for a year and tbh, for street driving I didn't notice much from when I had my stock shocks + Eibach Prokit springs. The adjustability of the dampers were noticeable otherwise going from 3 clicks to 10 clicks, but I'm driving at 7 clicks. Anyways, it's been so long since I had that springs setup, I can't compare them anymore.

Before I go out and throw down $250-300 for a corner balance, I'm wondering if I should instead save that money for something else. The car drives fine now, drives straight. No weird noises, handles nicely. Just wondering if it can BE better. My camber is at -1.3 all four corners, and I do want to set it at -1.6 soon.

TRAKRAVN 09-19-2016 05:31 PM

Well, you will need adjustable endlinks to eliminate preload on the swaybars. The corner balance will make the feel the same when turning left to right. If most of your driving is straight I don't think it would be wise use of money. That being said you will notice a difference, but you need to do an alignment and corner balance with you in the car. This way it's balanced while you are driving.

malubawla 09-19-2016 06:32 PM

add more negative camber up front, i also have tein flex z. running -2 front, -1.5 rear
on 255/35/18 tires on a 18x9 rim, 7 clicks all around as well

Twinz 09-19-2016 06:36 PM

How much corner balancing helps depends on how close, or far, you are from 50%. If you are way off, it will help a lot.

ryoma 09-19-2016 07:02 PM

tbh, unless you are a track enthusiast driving above 8/10ths on a closed course, I highly doubt you will notice the difference between corner balancing and a normal alignment. on the street, you will rarely get a chance to drive as you would on a track without endangering yourself or others. my advice would be to just get a proper alignment and save that left over $150

MarkR171 09-19-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2756644)
50% of what?

Weight balance side to side and back to front.

Captain Snooze 09-19-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2756646)
Weight balance side to side and back to front.

That's not the goal of corner weighting.

As you've described it you are seeking to do this.
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x808drifter 09-19-2016 10:03 PM

You want 50-50 cross.

FL-RR, and FR-RL

https://robrobinette.com/images/Corn...S2000Empty.jpg

Twinz 09-19-2016 10:03 PM

^ Yes, more detail:

Corner balancing is more like "leveling" a dinner table than "balancing" weight distribution. The weight at each corner of a car, on a level surface, is more of an indicator of the suspension's length/height at each corner than an "end" unto itself.

A car with poor corner balancing is similar to 4-legged dinner table that can rock back and forth when two opposing corners' legs are longer than one or both of the other two. But, whereas a table will rock back and forth over the long-legged axis, and alternately lift the two shorter leggs off the ground, making the issue obvious, the springs on a car will keep all four tires in contact with the ground and mask the issue.

The 4 individual scales, and the resulting weights, show how much force each tire is putting on the ground while at rest.

Less force (weight) on a cross-weight (DF+PR vs PF+DR) means one or both of the "table legs" are too short relative to the heavier cross weight. Or, conversely, the heavier cross-weight has a "leg" or "legs" that are to long.

MarkR171 09-19-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 2756649)
That's not the goal of corner weighting.

As you've described it you are seeking to do this.
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That's fair, but I meant them as two different things. 50/50 left:right (mainly) and/or 50/50 f:r

Captain Snooze 09-19-2016 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkR171 (Post 2756676)
That's fair, but I meant them as two different things. 50/50 left:right (mainly) and/or 50/50 f:r

That's still not the goal. See @x808drifter's post above.
Static 50% front/rear distribution is a marketing ploy.

Ashikabi 09-19-2016 11:00 PM

Didn't read thread just replying to title... gonna say you won't notice any difference whatsoever

mrk1 09-20-2016 07:35 AM

Not worth it.

JD001 09-20-2016 07:52 AM

What is the factory setting for each corner?


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