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LeeMaster 08-12-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash (Post 1090040)
Step 2 download live for speed

for computer or ps3/xbox?

canu_50 08-12-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1135916)
Stock ride height is ugly and 90% of drifting is about looks. Only 10% matters how well you drive

Lawl!!

canu_50 08-13-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 1136108)
for computer or ps3/xbox?

Live for speed is on PC, you might want to try Rfactor also with project d2.0.

Using fr-s, r32, soarer, jzx100, supra, fd3s on multiple real made course i.e ebisu, irwindale, redbull 2010, nikko,ect.

There's even my hometrack st-eustache on that game!

LeeMaster 08-13-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1135916)
Stock ride height is ugly and 90% of drifting is about looks. Only 10% matters how well you drive

You can't look good if you dont know how to drive, so 100% matters how you drift. On the other hand, you can look as good as possible but if you cant drift then you will never look good.

IMO, a perfectly executed drift on a stock car looks sexy as fuck.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aIcvFJM4DU"]Toyota GT 86 fails moose test - YouTube[/ame]

TylerLieberman 08-13-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 1138929)
You can't look good if you dont know how to drive, so 100% matters how you drift. On the other hand, you can look as good as possible but if you cant drift then you will never look good.

IMO, a perfectly executed drift on a stock car looks sexy as fuck.
Toyota GT 86 fails moose test - YouTube


Didn't catch my sarcasm.

It looks like any normal car sliding. Lowered car with nice wheels and overall good features looks way better doing the same thing

canu_50 08-14-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1138978)
Didn't catch my sarcasm.

It looks like any normal car sliding. Lowered car with nice wheels and overall good features looks way better doing the same thing

I have to give it to you on this one..

But the suspension i was sponsored last year, really was shit.. valving all over the place, so i made the decision to go back to stock and enjoy the car until i have my KW suspension!

JackSmiley 08-19-2013 11:02 AM

@TylerLieberman what's your suspension specs? I have the same coils as you do. Just wanted to see what spring rates you're using right now.

TylerLieberman 08-19-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JackSmiley (Post 1150941)
@TylerLieberman what's your suspension specs? I have the same coils as you do. Just wanted to see what spring rates you're using right now.

Using the spring rates that the coils come with. Rear dampers at full stiff. Front dampers are 4 clicks from full stiff.

Not sure about alignment. Still need to get a full alignment done.

Around -2 rear camber with some toe in. Around -4 camber front woth slight toe out. Im going to get rid of some rear camber and go to around zero toe in the rear when it gets aligned.

JackSmiley 08-20-2013 01:31 AM

Are you planning on changing the spring rates? My alignment's hella jacked up right now too. For some reason im getting -4 at the rear right and -2.3 at the rear left. Will be getting LCA's and toe links. Are you gonna go with the stance LCA?


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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1152712)
Using the spring rates that the coils come with. Rear dampers at full stiff. Front dampers are 4 clicks from full stiff.

Not sure about alignment. Still need to get a full alignment done.

Around -2 rear camber with some toe in. Around -4 camber front woth slight toe out. Im going to get rid of some rear camber and go to around zero toe in the rear when it gets aligned.


TylerLieberman 08-20-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JackSmiley (Post 1152960)
Are you planning on changing the spring rates? My alignment's hella jacked up right now too. For some reason im getting -4 at the rear right and -2.3 at the rear left. Will be getting LCA's and toe links. Are you gonna go with the stance LCA?

I won't change the spring rates until a few years down the road after all the engine/drivetrain upgrades and I rebuild the coilovers. I'll change to swift springs with a stiffer front and softer rear rate.

For now though, I have no intention of changing spring rates. They work just fine for the car.

Also, and alignment will make/break a car. Mine is all really close from wheel to wheel but if you're not even close alignment wise, you need to get that done ASAP. It's not safe to have a car like that. It's unpredictable.

As far as LCA's go, I haven't decided yet. I might go with LCA but we'll see. If my wheel/tire fitment won't allow me to pull out the camber that much, I'll just go to SPC arms and toe links. The Stance arms are nice though given the different mounting points and aurora ends. Probably the best ones on the market right now.

TylerLieberman 08-20-2013 08:42 AM

Here's some footage from the last event I went to a few weeks back.

[ame="http://vimeo.com/71297938"]Stroud Oklahoma Stick to Drifting Round 3 FR-S RAW FOOTAGE on Vimeo[/ame]


[ame="http://vimeo.com/71200866"]FR-S Drift Event Red River Stroud Oklahoma on Vimeo[/ame]

Still only on Stance coils. 215/45 Achilles ATR Sport tires front and rear.

Super simple but works really well. Only issue I was having out there was rubbing up front in the inner fender lining. You can hear it in the videos. At the beginning of the day, I was at like 35psi up front too which was causing some bad understeer so I dropped it a little and that solved the problem.

JackSmiley 08-20-2013 08:43 AM

The camber that i've posted was after alignment and the shop that did it couldnt adjust it, so they recommended to get the LCA and toe links so they could correct it.

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1153223)
I won't change the spring rates until a few years down the road after all the engine/drivetrain upgrades and I rebuild the coilovers. I'll change to swift springs with a stiffer front and softer rear rate.

For now though, I have no intention of changing spring rates. They work just fine for the car.

Also, and alignment will make/break a car. Mine is all really close from wheel to wheel but if you're not even close alignment wise, you need to get that done ASAP. It's not safe to have a car like that. It's unpredictable.

As far as LCA's go, I haven't decided yet. I might go with LCA but we'll see. If my wheel/tire fitment won't allow me to pull out the camber that much, I'll just go to SPC arms and toe links. The Stance arms are nice though given the different mounting points and aurora ends. Probably the best ones on the market right now.


TylerLieberman 08-20-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JackSmiley (Post 1153245)
The camber that i've posted was after alignment and the shop that did it couldnt adjust it, so they recommended to get the LCA and toe links so they could correct it.

The the oem rear LCAs aren't adjustable. You can adjust the toe a little bit but only so much with stock components.

Once you get the arms, get the alignment and the car will be completely different. After the new wheels come in (around October) I'll go get mine fully aligned and post up the specs here.

JackSmiley 08-20-2013 09:26 AM

Yeah, im actually gonna get the arms and toe links. You said something about the stance LCA, what's so good about them compared to the other LCA's in the market?


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