Why did I wait so long to try the pedal dance
 

Well I finally tried the pedal dance last night at my little local kart track where they host time attack. Think Autocross due to low speeds but still a challenge to get good lap times. Anyways what have I been missing all this time. in my 13 it has the more aggressive nannies vs the later 17's and on. The car just felt smoother to drive. Also my runs were much more consistent. One thing to warn is the car becomes much more happy to swing that rear end out ;) thus you better be ready to catch the rear end. I will continue to practice to prepare for larger tracks and the pedal dance.

have you tried to compare this at all to pulling the traction/abs fuse?

scared to do that :scared0016:

People are funny. What's scary about driving a car built before ABS was a thing? Oooooo!...

Maybe I will try this in a few events at the same track. Nothing bad can really happen there. Link on how to do this?

I believe the abs fuse is needed for biasing, otherwise the system will lock a wheel with a random amount of pedal pressure.

@NoHaveMSG had it happen I believe with some other warning lights


If it was only the t/c and abs systems it took out, I'm all for pulling the fuse

I haven't had it drop into ice mode. I have had the EBD miss behave trail braking hard into a corner using the long press. @ZDan has pulled the abs fuse on track. I don't believe he had any issues.

I remembered something about bias but wasn't sure.

Long press is for shit. It still pulls throttle, and intervenes as you've noticed.

Long press is what I consider good enough for extreme street driving. But now after learning of ice mode, I wouldn't trust the entire system enough to leave it active in a track setting. Too many variables at the wrong time to have to deal with

Yeah, it is pretty bad on the pre facelift cars. Trac box was a great investment. No waiting for engine temps, just flip the switch and it's ready to rock.

I really need to get one. I'm too fucking minimalist. ...ok, cheap. I'm too fucking cheap.

Well, to play devil's advocate, nothing is scary about driving a car before ABS/Traction Control, primarily because they were designed without it. I'd be a little cautious in a modern car because it's very likely there was a tendency of the designers to lean on the computer more than they should. Maybe not in a sports car, but definitely in other genres.