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12-27-2022 10:39 AM |
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Originally Posted by Ernest72
(Post 3561713)
So I mostly commute with my BRZ and lately rarely goose it over 3-4K. I have other cars to play with. So last time I got gas they did not have 93 and I out 89 in and the car felt exactly the same. No I did not log it to see if there was knock or anything funky going on. But if I did not know it was 89 I would never be able to tell for commuting. Thinking it would be great to do this and save some money burning gas on my long highway commute. Any thoughts? Is there and OFT OTS tune for 89?
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The stock ECU uses a base ignition table in combination with a ignition advance table. The base ignition table is the minimum ignition advance that the engine will run. The ECU then adds a percentage of the advance table on top of the base table. This percentage depends on how much knock the engine is detecting. I believe every time you start the car the ECU is running 70% of the advance table on top of the base table and then increases that to 100% as long as there is no knock detected. On the flip side, if there is knock detected it would use less of the advance table down to a minimum of 0%, in which case it would just be running the base table.
For example: the base table says to run 10 degrees of ignition advance and the advance table is an additional 5 degrees. So the engine will be running anywhere from 10 to 15 degrees of advance depending on how much knock it sees.
When using lower octane fuel my guess is that you will be seeing more knock and therefore be running less ignition advance which ultimately means less torque. It's possible that the octane could be low enough that you are running only the base table (0% of advance table) and the engine is still knocking because it has no more room to retard the timing further. This is probably unlikely but would have to be verified with data logging.
How will this affect your engine long term? I couldn't tell you, but maybe this was still helpful...
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