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Kona61 07-17-2021 02:12 AM

GR86/BRZ Track Comparison (Japanese)
 
Japanese press release including the old model one and both manual and auto versions of the new one.

If someone else could translate, that would be great lol!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOT...83%A0%E3%80%91

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zjS...VECARS%21TV%21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiAp...l=AutoMesseWeb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Uk...82%AB%E3%83%A9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QBf...annel=NOBLESSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAP2...81%9F%E3%81%8B

Jianlun 07-17-2021 03:02 AM

Drift King timings!
GR86 MT 1min 19.54
BRZ MT 1min 20.10
GR86 AT 1min 20.59
BRZ AT 1min 20.71

Compared to Noblesse (I assume same conditions):
GR86 AT 1min 22.09
GR86 MT 1min 22.78
BRZ AT 1min 23.14
BRZ MT 1min 23.14

Jianlun 07-17-2021 05:03 AM

Most now Translatable (you tube auto translate with the subtitles):
https://youtu.be/ZK0bFs8xSJo
https://youtu.be/tDmhZkMWrdA
https://youtu.be/K6WV4CxBwkw
https://youtu.be/P27k0_KzMKA
https://youtu.be/8nacFffZB5A
https://youtu.be/-kxyvG-zw44
https://youtu.be/SiKbE5LQH9U
https://youtu.be/OdrOhtbyneE
https://youtu.be/NySdSPQpPsc
https://youtu.be/ItSVw99OowY
https://youtu.be/fkhjkxTjR2Y
https://youtu.be/RXqj4iZqjjQ
https://youtu.be/ewVDtfRcNFk
https://youtu.be/4dr9dyF3kv4
https://youtu.be/m8BXYWB54fs
https://youtu.be/1o7n6yjnhxk
https://youtu.be/za8pE22_S0Q
https://youtu.be/k6_f4IrnMFw

Yoshoobaroo 07-17-2021 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jianlun (Post 3449845)
Drift King timings!
GR86 MT 1min 19.54
BRZ MT 1min 20.10
GR86 AT 1min 20.59
BRZ AT 1min 20.71

Compared to Noblesse (I assume same conditions):
GR86 AT 1min 22.09
GR86 MT 1min 22.78
BRZ AT 1min 23.14
BRZ MT 1min 23.14


Is ‘BRZ’ new BRZ or old BRZ?

Jianlun 07-17-2021 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3449861)
Is ‘BRZ’ new BRZ or old BRZ?

New.

Jegan_V 07-17-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3449861)
Is ‘BRZ’ new BRZ or old BRZ?

New one, its in the AMW video which featured neither old car.

Seems these cars from what I'm seeing in Tsuchiya's driving have returned back to the 2013 days where Toyota is slightly more tail happy and Subaru is more prone to understeer. It will be about the 45 second mark where he appears to countersteer more with both GR86s while the BRZ significantly less dramatic.

Jianlun 07-17-2021 11:23 AM

in the below video (i know its a repost), see 3:00 to 4:30, turn on subtitles and auto translate. it seems to say that the new BRZ uses aluminum front knuckles while GR86 uses cast iron...... anyone can verify?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdrO...dex=46&t=1985s

Yoshoobaroo 07-17-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jegan_V (Post 3449885)
New one, its in the AMW video which featured neither old car.

Seems these cars from what I'm seeing in Tsuchiya's driving have returned back to the 2013 days where Toyota is slightly more tail happy and Subaru is more prone to understeer. It will be about the 45 second mark where he appears to countersteer more with both GR86s while the BRZ significantly less dramatic.


It’s surprising the Toyota is significantly quicker.

Yoshoobaroo 07-17-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jianlun (Post 3449886)
in the below video (i know its a repost), see 3:00 to 4:30, turn on subtitles and auto translate. it seems to say that the new BRZ uses aluminum front knuckles while GR86 uses cast iron...... anyone can verify?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdrO...dex=46&t=1985s


There’s no way. Could they be talking about the old one?

mazeroni 07-17-2021 01:01 PM

Hurrah! Real engine sound at 14:50!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOTFd5FVAY

nextcar 07-17-2021 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo (Post 3449890)
There’s no way. Could they be talking about the old one?

I think it really is different between the two. A moment later in the video, they move to the "chassis" where the left side is the BRZ and the right is the GR86. The left side shows the aluminum part and the right side the steel. Likewise when they go to the back they show the GR86 having a thicker sway bar.

Kona61 07-17-2021 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 3449932)
I think it really is different between the two. A moment later in the video, they move to the "chassis" where the left side is the BRZ and the right is the GR86. The left side shows the aluminum part and the right side the steel. Likewise when they go to the back they show the GR86 having a thicker sway bar.

Yea it definitely is steel. That's interesting! It sounds like it's stiffer though? Regardless, it's not that difficult to change, and the 86 is supposedly faster on track.

Yoshoobaroo 07-17-2021 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nextcar (Post 3449932)
I think it really is different between the two. A moment later in the video, they move to the "chassis" where the left side is the BRZ and the right is the GR86. The left side shows the aluminum part and the right side the steel. Likewise when they go to the back they show the GR86 having a thicker sway bar.


That’s crazy!

DaffyDOHC 07-17-2021 07:26 PM

These videos has gotten me way more hyped up.


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