Nice or Rice: Widebody Kits
 

Alright guys heres eddition 2 of Nice or Rice.
Heres the first edition: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92510 Topic: Burnt Titanium Tips

This topic is going to be on Widebody kits. I am NOT here to hurt any feelings, just to get a poll of people on this forum about the current fads nowadays. None of the photos are mine and found on google images.


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I have seen a couple well done widebody cars.... but rocket bunny has never been one of them.

So long as it isn't a cookie cutter Rocket Bunny build with Forgestar F14 wheels, then I'm not going to hate on it.

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Depends on the setting for me. Car show/car meet? Nice. Street driving? Rice

I voted nice because when done correctly they can look really good and even provide function in come circumstances.

With that said, I feel like 90% of the widebody kits done out there are rice...

I've seen some good widebody kits, and I've seen some hideous. I liked what RSD did with their rocket bunny car pre-insane aero upgrades.

I appreciate the work, especially if the paint is clean and the bodywork is on point, but not my stilo.

The basic look makes the car look like a track car being driven on the road. As long as the car is not all SHOW and no GO ... then I don't mind it at all.

Not sure I would do this on my road car. Track ... yes .... if it was functional.

Wide body cars looks cool at car shows, photo shoots and video games. But in the real world i don't think they look that great.

I also don't like them because they take away too much of the originality of a car.

I always preferred the clean look and when people mod a car but try to keep the originality of it intact.

If its done right, molded into the body with sheet metal and repainted (that black one), yea looks decent, but that stuff I've seen where you bolt it into the side, no its awful

So yea I didn't vote because I can't

There are plenty of quality and functionally built cars with widebodies. I believe its the whole stanced/stretch tire trend that makes the majority of the widebody builds look bad. This forum seems to really hate on Rocket Bunny, i'll never understand why that's an amazing looking kit. I love the design when it's done right.

I personally like it,,cus I wanted to be rice once in my life!

I like'em. But their intended purpose has got to be functional.

Nice :)

Not before you spend your money on forced induction or an LS3 swap. With the required increase in tire size a wide body kit can look good. It is functuinal, to a point. But not if you are breaking out some 305 section super sports to handle that beastly 170 wheel hp.

Rice, unless required for performance reasons. But considering you can fit a 265 tire under the stock fenders, a widebody is almost always rice.

Besides, rocketbunny is basic AF these days

Ok so his is how i see it:

Car rocket bunny is nice (With different wing) but rice with the blacked out Toyota emblem.

Nice when its clean, but rice with all the stickers.

Overall I say nice.

pretty sure 90% are still putting down 170hp to the wheels lol...got to have the power to back it up

I believe mine is 'rice', nothing performance except a filter swap though. I still enjoy how it looks. I'd go with rice just because it's a 'ricey' car, plus I've seen more stock cars (if we're treating them as neutral for the sake of this thread) than any nice ones.

Not going to slam anyone's personal tastes, it's YOUR car. Call me weird, I don't enjoy some of the hate heaped on people for doing what they want/love.


That being said, personally I love the lines and dimensions of the car in it's stock form.

That is the reason why so many don't like it here. ^^^
It frequently isn't.

I have said that about mine many times. If going strictly by the modern accepted use of the word "rice" mine is a text book example.

When Ken Gushi have RB kit on his Formula D is "nice" but when other people put it, it's "rice"? Because it's so call "not functional"?

If they wanna put RB kit on their 200hp NA car w 18x10 wheels, go for it. That's what they wanna do and that's their money. Whatever makes em happy.

Let's face it, 99% of current wide body kit for our car IS for show and nothing functional about it (except 14R60 or STI GT300 BRZ). Yes, RB, Varis and few others do make wide body kit and some shops do uses to race... but is it aerodynamically functional? I beg to differ, so is that make it "rice"? I don't think so.

Side note, wide body isn't only to put wider tires (which A LOT of ppl believes), but it also helps/upgrades suspension geometries. You could have wide body kit with 225 width tires... but that's different topic.

Just my 2 cents

Depends. This is nice

This is rice.

I think the RB kit looks pretty cool. 'Nice' or 'rice' depends on how it's done and presented, like most have already said.
Out of all the RB kits i've seen, this one would be a 'nice' vote from me as it has to be one of the nicest/cleanest; with no fender rivets showing:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33309

Beating a dead horse I know but if it is going to be for show then finish the job as ashiu said things like filling the rivets will go a long way to gaining acceptance. If used for practical race purposes slap that kit on and rivets and off colour be damned. If for show finish the job, fill the rivets and smooth out the seems and paint 'er up.
I have always advocated "it is your car do as you please" but when people do as they please and then get pissy when others don't drool over it that is when they place themselves in peril of criticism.


Rice is in the eye of the beholder!

Why is everyone acting like this car only has 2 purposes: for show and for street driving?

I drift my FRS with a wide angle steering kit, and I'm currently looking at wide fenders/widebody kits because my tires rub on both the fenders and fender liners on full lock. And in 'track mode', I use wider tires that also rub in the turns.

So all you guys who just stand there looking pretty next to your car can complain about how ricey it is, while those of us who actually use our cars will buy these kits without giving a shit what you think.

Think there may be more supporters of the race crowd that you realize there Camp.
Yours is the perfect reason to install a kit and even with it on there raw (no paint, exposed rivets, etc) it should never, ever, be called "rice" since it is there for a very specific reason. In fact a kit installed on a tracked car is the very definition of "anti rice" in my books.

It's right in the name: Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement ---> R.I.C.E.
Most widebody kits don't offer much in terms of performance, so to me they're rice.

I believe that is also due to this being an inexpensive car, some people can't afford to put a good amount of time and effort into molding, and repainting thier car.

This is very, very true. Unfortunately it does not help the image when there are poorly done budget jobs. I totally understand why things may need to be done in stages but when somebody runs out and grabs all the cheap knock off stuff they can, slaps it on without a care and then says "look at my RB car isn't it beautiful" they can cross over into rice territory pretty quick.

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yup.

Widebody has functional applications. In the 70's my dad raced a widebody Datsun 510. He said he did it so that he could run an 8" wheel (which I assume wouldn't fit standard fenders or would screw up the scrub radius and effective spring rate/damper rate). They also used to run Nissan president take offs for big brakes because BBKs weren't available yet. Wide body might have been needed to use the big brakes and still fit wide wheels.

That said, unless you need 12" wheels with wide tires to get massive amounts of power to the ground, its not really necessary. The 86 can fit 10" wheels in the back with little effort. That's enough for most applications.

Overall, I liked them on his 510, but most of the ones I see now are a bit over the top.

Got my popcorn......http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/...orn20drama.gif


Rice.


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It's nice rice :)

They're cool... just hesitant to cut and replace perfectly fine steel panels with inferior FRP material. Always a chance of forming cracks over time but I guess easy to replace. Still prefer ABS plastic, steel, or CFRP.

The Weld FR-S is my favorite because it's welded on steel:

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