Bra vs 2015 camaro v6
 

I have a BRZ right now and have the opportunity to go to either a challenger, camaro or mustang. I do like my BRZ but it is a little too small. Thoughts form anyone who has owned one of these cars or have experience with them.

V8!
Pony's are fun with V8s and you'll love raw power.

The V6 isn't an option in any kind of "muscle car." Don't even look if you can't afford the V8.

What do you mean by too small? Not enough backseat room or you just want a bigger car from an exterior dimension perspective? The Camaro's backseat looks as tight or tighter than the BRZ.

Also, the 2016 Camaro is out and is a hundred times better than the 2015 Camaro. I think you would instantly regret buying a V6 2015 Camaro. There is nothing special about those cars. They are big on the outside, have really cheap interiors, have horrible visibility, are very heavy, and don't handle well (talking V6 here).

What don't you like about the BRZ? If you want more of a muscle car either get Mustang or the 2016 Camaro. And I tend to agree on the V8 comment, I can't tell you how many people I know who bought the 4 or 6 cylinder and regretted not getting the 8.

From my recent experience with a 2016 Mustang (V6, convertible) I couldn't agree more. I was joking that it was like a steamboat. When I turned the steering wheel, the car tilted to the side (should I say listed?), then sort of followed the steering wheel with certain delay, then tilted again in the opposite direction when it caught up. Visibility: I could mostly see the hood.


It was a relatively powerful steamboat, but still a steamboat.

Yeah... That "listing" feeling doesn't really inspire confidence, does it? I had a Lexus GS that had that same issue. It was pretty damn fast but I got pretty hairy on the corners. What? no I never wet myself! (but I came close a couple times)


I'll take the precision of the small cars.

No matter how fast any V6 Pony car is, id rather drive a Yugo. Because, deep down, you and EVERYONE that knows ANYTHING about cars will KNOW youre a ***** for not getting the V8. No two ways about it.

You would really regret getting a 2015 camaro when the Alpha Camaro is practically here.

Night and day difference between the two generations.

:drool: I choose bra...

I must say the 2016 Camaros are super nice. I hate to admit it haha!! There is a '16 SS sitting 3 feet from me right now in the service drive-thru where I work. SS starts at 47k CAD

Agrees.

http://www.daidegasforum.com/images/...arco-hot-2.JPG

Mustang would be my only choice. V6. Handling is similar and you can do canyon runs too. More space, but not that much more. Better mpg imo but idk how you feel about Ford. Im biased. I dislike Ford.

What about a WRX Turbo?

THANK YOU!
Wouldnt have a V6 pony car, there is a great lack of respect for them in the Mustang groups

who cares about that lack of respect? Buy what you want, when you want.

Last I remember, respect from random strangers on the internet car forums didnt pay for my last 5+ cars. I did.


If OP wants power, like its been stated before, he can always go FI or engine swap. If he wants room, then he can get a Venza or Highlander if he so chose to.

Don't limit your desires and pleasures to those others enjoy guys. Do what makes you happy, and dont worry, be happy.


https://media.giphy.com/media/4xReDJCKQ5NVm/giphy.gif

If I had a rice car i so dearly loved all riced up and the car community gave me sh!t for it, id just leave the community. Ain't gonna put my happiness into jeopardy lol

Fixed.


Although with the new turbo four cylinder Camaro I am kind of interested. I would love to have a turbo Camaro decimate a 5.0 sounding like a Honda civic.


The turbo four should actually take to mods well and be a neat platform. All V6 muscle cars are horrible though and only need to be driven as rental cars.

Kind of like your opinion of the AT with the twins, then?

haha I've said that too but truth is, there's times id like a auto. I can multitask (unsafe derp) more often. I also wouldnt have to worry bout my car stalling in the mornings when I'm half awake (lol).

Truth be told, love both but i feel manual is more engaging and truer to the spirit of 'driving.'

In Plato's words: Auto driving a twin=shadow, Manual driving=driving.


Anyway, I forgot about the Camaro 4cyl turbos! Good info here

It'd be more than enough power for me on the 4cyl turbo!~

As a family car, OP, what about a Legacy? Or a Lexus? 4 door, room, some power, look nice!

I chose the Camaro because I have no use for a bra. :iono:

No, no, no, no! Braless.


https://theerrvent.files.wordpress.c...03/o452169.jpg

Methinks someone left their high beams on.

I feel like everyone is too biased by the 4th gen camaro and mustangs, with those pathetic v6's. The new LGX v6 is pretty freaking impressive. 335 hp and 285 ftlb torque out of a 3.5L is pretty impressive. Better numbers than my vq37vhr which even has 200 more cc.

Seeing how the v8 is almost 10k more expensive (and who knows how long it'll take before the 2016 v8 camaro doesn't have a dealer markup), I don't think I would fault people anymore for choosing a v6 mustang or camaro. I hope they get pobst to post some times with the v6 camaro as well as the v8s. I really want to see how it stacks up. Wouldn't be suprised if they bested lots of pricey european sports cars.

[Personal opinion]
Just like the 86 is more than the sum of its numbers(not that fast but damn is it fun) I agree with the idea that any REAL American muscle car has at least 8 cylinders in it. And I will think less of anyone who buys less.
[/Personal opinion]

Get whatever makes you happy and eff everyone elses personal opinions. They don't have to drive it, you do.

When I was shopping for a new car it really was a fight, considering a BRZ , v6 camero, Genesis v6, G37, m3.

It came down to the v6 camero and an FRS. I had rented a v6 camero for a week before, and I was very inpressed with it. I say the only down side is the resale value drops like a mofo cause the new one each year looks way, way better. The power and comfort are way better than the 86, gas wise it did a few mpg better than my 91 mr2 turbo.

The only reason why I didn't jump on the v6 camero was this BRZ popped up for less, and the new 2015 camero made all previous models look like dog shit. Now the 2016 looks even better.

I never did buy into the v6 vs v8 fight on the camero. To me it's just an optimal engine. 300hp with about 30mpg what's not to like? Other than the next years model makes the old one look like dog shit.

The 2015 V6 Camaro was also on my short list. I was not worried about V8 power for a DD commuter and didn't give a crap what people thought of me for it. What ultimately dropped it off my list was the high doors that made me feel like I was in a bath tub and the horrid visibility out the back and sides. I just could not feel comfortable during the test drive and although I may have got used to those relatively small issues I decided it wasn't what I was after.

Lol I actually like the bath tub high door feeling. The poor visibility I noticed on every new car from 2010+. But I did get used to it after a day. I complained about the same thing on the BRZ.

Also, if you actually look like the way you do in your profile picture... then you will be treated like a god in every circle... car respect or not... each car you step in would instantly become HOT. :thumbsup:

Note: the black guy isn't the picture I am talking about.

I've driven a previous gen Mustang V6 w/ track pack, previoius gen Camaro 'vert V6, and previous gen Camaro SS.

I have absolutely zero regrets about choosing the 86 (I've owned it for 3 years now and have no inclination to test the new generations). There are tens of thousands of people who would balk at that statement and call me crazy. IMO the previous generation of pony cars drove like the other 3,500+ pound American vehicles I grew up with: Pickups and Minivans.

Test drives are free, get whatever makes you happy.

Also, my vote is for braless.

:cheers:

Edit: Also ridden shotgun in a Mustang Boss 302, at Laguna Seca, still didn't change my mind. Awesome car though.

People that share your mentality are the problem, and I certainly don't mean that as a knock against you as I don't know you.

No one should be looked down on for what they purchase and drive. You don't think someone that drives an Alfa, Aston, or Porsche - is a better person than you, do you? When I was 19 - I had my first Porsche (944 turbo S) I thought it was one of the best cars made, and everything underneath of it was crap. It took a few years to grow up from that mindset - 16 years later - I feel like I have grown up a lot, and I still love cars. But I am a heck of a lot easier on the "younger" crowd. Because that was me. I was there...

Enthusiasts come in all shapes and sizes, backgrounds, education levels, and financial ability. The dude breaking his neck to pay for his M3, might not have a place to live next week. So don't judge others just because today you are in a sweet spot.

But who am I - I like EV's, cheap eco cars (I dearly miss my TRD spec'd out yaris for the 45mpg I could get), I like bikes, roadsters, old cars, antique cars, exotics. I feel like we live in an amazing automotive time - and I can appreciate ALL the cars that lead up to where we are today (be it really good cars, or bad cars) - but those bad cars - are what got us to the good and great cars of today. Without the V6 fleet - the V8's might never have made it.

And seriously - I don't mean any of that negatively towards you. I bet your younger (I am mid 30's) and I'd prefer to make friends, and not fight/argue. :cheers:

What can I say? Im a prick.:iono:

Black guy? you mean Marley? Also pretty sure PackofCrows has a schlong, my profile pic on a lot of things is a brz or my old is300, do people think I'm actually a sentient car?

Love that reply hahaha

yup... therefore my choice of words: "if you actually look like the way you do..."

Hmm... Marley, I do not always know what celebs looks like at a glance unless they are female and appear naked in a lot of movies :wub::wub::wub:

haha jk.

How can you not know what Bob looks like, I mean he's on every 1 out of 5 tshirts worn by stoners, beatnicks, etc.

I just am the way I am! I am gfg like that!
He is... however as far as i can remember ( i cant remember ever caring ).......... i spend.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000001 sec paying attention to who on anyone's shirt is.

I stare at very different kind of chests.... busty exploding chests only! :wub:

I just sold my 2014 Mustang V6 for the BRZ. The Mustang certainly had more balls in a straight line, but other than that, it was uninspiring. I've had more fun in the BRZ in the 3 months I've had it than I ever did in the Mustang. Don't get me wrong, the Mustang was a good overall car, but not nearly as fun to drive.

My friend just bought a 2014 Mustang GT and i will say that the rear seats are slightly bigger but nothing crazy. The power is nice but since its heavy it doesn't feel fast.( I assume its the same with the camaro) I would honestly recommend not going through the hassle of trading your car in and add a good supercharger to your twin :party0030:

Well having owned a 5th gen SS, I can tell you that it most definitely does feel fast because of the torque of the LS3 engine even with the weight. With coilovers and new tires, the car handles surprisingly well for what it is. However, it is because of this weight that the car feels a bit numb and much less flickable.

I feel like the LS motor suits a "heavy" car because of that torque, definitely feels faster than a 5.0 to me (no hate). Different strokes for different folks (I would kill for a Camaro 1LE though)

The LS3 does have more torque than the coyote. But to be completely honest, the car was just too big in physical size and you felt the presence of it. That is one of the beauty of the 86 and S2000 platform. The car just...reacts...it's precise...it is almost as if it reads your mind. You point it where you want it to go and it does. It's hard to explain to the average person but I'm sure most members here get it.