Subaru BRZ or Scion FR-S?
 

Okay yes I am a chick and I will admit I don't know everything there is to know about cars, that's why I hang out with the guys so I can learn a thing or two and be around the nice rigs, but I am looking into these two cars and just wanted feedback on them before I made the purchase!

Same car mechanically. Pick the one with the features that suit your budget and priorities.

Well they're both basically the same car driving wise, except for springs I hear, but it shouldn't really make a difference to differ you from buying one from the other. The front bumper is the only thing different from the outside as well, so decide which front end you like better. Some like the BRZ better, some like the frs better..
The base models for both cars are different as well, the frs does not come with navigation standard, the BRZ has it on base models, which is part of why they are more expensive

You get more with the BRZ, which is why it's costlier. But you can also add on the other options with the frs..
I would reccomend getting a used BRZ personally. The HID headlight's and navigation is worth it. BRZ if you want world rally blue color as well :)

Flip a coin, heads - brz, tails - frs

Can I ask something? Are you still located in China? I don't recall the Scion marque branching out there. You should be looking for a Toyota GT86 and not the Scion FR-S if that's the case, unless you're importing one for some reason.

Since you asked for the FR-S vs. BRZ, the main differences between them are mainly the looks (headlights and front bumper mainly) and the badges. The suspension was at one point different, but starting with 2015 IIRC, the FR-S suspension is more tame. Unless you were to pick up a special edition FR-S (i.e. Monogram), you can only get HIDs, dual climate control, push-start, etc. on the BRZ Limited. The BRZ Premium is pretty much identical to the FR-S (without the aforementioned features) except that it still has HIDs.

Oh yeah, the FR-S has an exclusive Hot Lava color, while the BRZ has the trademark World Rally Blue exclusive to it. The FR-S has three additional colors exclusive to special editions: 10 Series Silver Ignition, RS 1.0 Yuzu Yellow, and the upcoming RS 2.0 Desert Storm, while the BRZ has a special edition Series.Hyperblue with paint of the same name, as well as Series.Blue editions the prior year, but with only World Rally Blue or Crystal White Pearl (not exclusive from other BRZs).

A chick said I am a chick,,so rare. (For some reason, I think its funny.)

Your drives statues already determine what you gonna drive. JK

Both same exact car, just different badge, different bumper.
I personally like BRZ WR BLUE, and the baby blue.
However, i purchase a 10 series cus it has Brz limited options but with FRS aggressive front bumper.

One brand it seems has better customer service than another, being that your a chick and, Im making a bias statement,..... I'm thinking your not going to be doing any work on it yourself......I would go with the brand that treats its customer best in the service department.

We really don't need to know or care if you're a chick. Why even bother mentioning it?

If you want to know about cars, you can research with the internet on your own time. Hanging out with people is great, but the magical land of the interwebs has a plethora of information at your disposal.

As for the difference between them, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+2015+brz+frs

If you don't care for driving feel and maybe pushing the limits of the car a bit don't buy it; it's likely you'll end up with buyer's remorse.

You say to get the one with better service but not which one that is? Service can be just as spotty between the two anyway it isn't a brand thing it is a dealer thing.

There's no Scion in China.

http://thumbsnap.com/s/CsGcchke.jpg

Depends on whether the OP wants an inferiority complex or not. If yes, the FR-S it is! :D

Hey not all of us have an inferiority complex! Some of us know damn well we are way better than WRX owners!!!!!!!

Here here!


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FRS has stiffer springs, BRZ has nicer updated interior. FRS has logo on the side, BRZ doesnt, BRZ has a longer side vent, FRS has a tiny one. I think maybe the BRZ has a different front on it, or so I read.

Drive them both, make a decission then. I only had to drive the FRS once and it blew all my indecision away. I didn't even want to go look at the other cars I had in mind, actually one was sitting right beside the FRS (370Z) but the FRS blew it away in looks. 370 would have been faster but it is a heavy car.

I think he just said he was a chick to get good feedback and not the typical "do a search" reply. lol jk maybe? If you're a chick, prove it lol

Pics or it didn't happen. Dis goin to be good.


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Having owned a G37. It was quick. No doubt. But not nearly as enjoyable as the BRZ. Cornering was muted in the G. Cornering in the Brz with wider tires is just 😆 the whole time.


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If your a real chick. Welcome. If your a guy pretending to be a chick. You're a troll and you have other problems.

The BRZ has slightly better interior options, but the GT86 has a cooler name. You're choice ... Essentially the same car.

I wouldn't buy BRZ. I don't like Subaru's brand image: wilderneass, camping, safety, and we love each other. I want asphalt, a 5-star hotel, aggressive driving and hating other drivers ;-)

Ok,....fair enough.....Iv'e owned both brands, lessor so on the Toyota side of things,....2 of them beside the FRS.....I'm older and have bought a ton of new cars,,,approaching 60, my experience would lean more towards the Subaru even though I bought the fRS out of necessity....wanted the car and all the BRZ's were sold out in my area. Subaru dealers are small and seem to take care of their customers better.....at-least in my area and strive more for repeat customers.....

Reverse here. My Toyota dealer is great the Subaru one won't give you the time of day.


Approaching 60 your age or how many new cars you have bought? If cars why so many? (Serious questions not a slam)

sorry.....my age.....never have actually did a tally on new cars......I might try that some day....not trying to impress....actually now adays its stupid, money wise to buy new.

There are many of us in that group here!
I was sitting here going "god I hope that is his age or he chews up new cars like crazy".

Is that Toyota dealer on the small size?,....and not a big conglomerate of dealers owned by the same guy?

It is one of the larger dealers in town and they own a couple of different brands but they are not huge. The Subaru one is owned by some asshats that pretty much have a strangle hold on most make's dealerships in town so just don't care. I get where you were headed since this has been a complaint of mine in this city for a long time.

Why can't scion be head and brz be tails!:lol:

I hate my brother's G35. Only thing I like about it is the power of the V6, everything else is subpar and boring.

Cuz da FRS be tail happy mang.

I can't help but wonder if OP mentioning "I'm a chick" is the reason why no one has gone apeshit about using the search feature yet.

Are HID headlights an option for the FRS? My BRZ has them and they really light up the road.

Otherwise, choose the brand based on your positive experiences at the dealership. Don't forget to stop by the service desk and introduce yourself as a potential new customer. Those are the people you will be dealing with in the future.

Not on the normal production versions. HIDs are only on the Monogram, RS, etc limited series FRS.

Not for the "regular" FR-S. I believe the special editions have HID (Release Series, Monogram, etc with the JDM Headlights).

You can always do a BRZ headlight swap or upgrade the projectors.

In hindsight, I'd get the BRZ for the headlights alone. I hate the front bumper though. I like the FRS bumper a lot more since I am a fan of the aggressive styling. But I don't like the gt86/monogram hid lights. Think they're kind of tacky with that strip of LED.

In a perfect world, I'd have the BRZ headlights with the FRS bumper.

Actually the "go search noob" fad seems to have pretty much died out.
Many of the posts that originally would have said it now just say http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96158

Bleh. I originally liked the FRS bumper more, but the more I look at it, the more I like the BRZ bumper. FRS bumper looks too plain and the turn signal area reminds me of all the corolla/camry cars rolling around. Taxis in NYC all tend to be toyotas too, so I'm real sick of seeing that turn signal design.

Basically comes down to 2 things.

1. Color, if you want WRB, get Subaru. If you want Hot Lava, get Toyota
2. Front bumper face...which you like more.

I was and am a Subaru fan boy, but i chose the Toyota version because i liked the front face better. In terms of color i wanted red which both versions came in so it came down to the front bumper face for me.

Other than that the cars are exactly the same, especially in China since i believe the interior is the same as in the BRZ.

Hard to turn this into a troll thread if everyone tells the OP to search. It's more fun this way because BRZ's are obviously better because people that buy them are more high quality.

See this poll for proof: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44672

Dat side 86 logo with piston bag though. BRZ has suspension setup different from ours. Headlights are different as well.

I can't stand the BRZ mustache. I also prefer the 86 piston badge on the fender over the brz's blank panel. Still though, if I wasn't such a Toyota diehard, I would've gotten the BRZ. It's better value imo and I love the wrb colour of all colours. The headlights are still the best I've seen to date and are OEM quality on the brz. Having bought an FRS, I gotta deal with shotty aftermarket headlight stuff or pony up the $1200+ for brz headlights.

I can agree with that. The mustache was one of my gripes too, and I would prefer the 86 fender garnishes instead. Tempted to get some used ones from someone who does a partout in the future.

Despite the mustache, I like that the BRZ front looks more like my face as I'm driving it, :D

Rather than the FRS, D:

Bolded were my two single criteria in choosing one over the other.


Nice work on being one of the few guys that responded that understands that OP is in China. The stripped down FRS is not an option there and the differences between the BRZ and the Asian market 86 are minimal.