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X Factor 01-10-2016 12:56 PM

1320 Header & Overpipe
 
Is anyone using this combination? I've found a couple of posts on the header but not the overpipe. These are definitely on low end of the price spectrum, are they worth it?

On a slightly different topic, any concerns of not having a heat shield with the aftermarket headers?

SpectreRT 01-10-2016 01:11 PM

Everyone I've seen use these have had exhaust leak issues and strange rattles. Rattle has been narrowed down to the "CEL Delete" that they weld on... that also does not work.

I'd avoid personally.

xsl27x 01-10-2016 01:32 PM

I just ordered this combo, will be here Wednesday. I read it was mostly the header not playing well with other overpipes but I grabbed some grimmspeed gaskets just to be sure. I'll try to update once it comes in. I have my doubts too...

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maca 01-10-2016 02:50 PM

Yes, i've UEL & Overpipe !

No leaks and no CEL in my case,
I replace gaskets using original subaru parts

2x 44022AA020
1x 44011AG000

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=95068&page=3

X Factor 01-10-2016 03:01 PM

All good info keep it coming

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xsl27x 01-13-2016 04:42 PM

Here you go boys, showed up today while i was installing my Perrin intake. Let me know if you want any other pictures. The shipping weight said 22lbs for header/op/hardware. I'll be using grimmspeed gaskets instead of the one provided and I plan on removing the 02 L-extender they provide since I'll run an OFT tune. I probably won't be able to install until next weekend, the 22nd.
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Teseo 01-13-2016 06:46 PM

Why o2 spacer rattles?

xsl27x 01-13-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo (Post 2508439)
Why o2 spacer rattles?

Probably because its really 3 separate pieces.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...edee746c5b.jpg

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Teseo 01-13-2016 08:11 PM

And what to do for free rattle?

xsl27x 01-13-2016 08:15 PM

Either remove it and screw in 02 sensor like on the stock header, but you'll need a tune to turn off the CEL. Or keep it and use a good amount of loctite should work, but I'm not sure how it will hold up to high heat.

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RastaFR-S 01-14-2016 09:57 AM

I got my header and overpipe in last week. I'll be installing this Saturday the 16th. I'll let you know how it goes.

X Factor 01-14-2016 08:06 PM

The 90 degree fitting provided with the header is that where your o2 sensor is supposed to be mounted instead of directly into the header

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xsl27x 01-14-2016 08:08 PM

Yes, there's also a second bung further down the header that doesn't have the 90° bracket. I understand it's entire purpose is to eliminate a CEL, which only uses the first sensor to decide if a code should be thrown.

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X Factor 01-14-2016 08:10 PM

Does 1320 provide any instructions about the o2 sensors

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xsl27x 01-14-2016 08:11 PM

No papers came in the box. I don't believe their website explains it either.

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FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-14-2016 08:37 PM

@xsl27x has the right idea if you've got a stage 2 tune from OFT or tuning with ecutek for something similiar it's best to remove the 90 degree bend for the O2 sensor bung, otherwise you'll skew values for the tune.

X Factor 01-14-2016 08:38 PM

So what do you do with the o2 sensor

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xsl27x 01-14-2016 08:40 PM

2 sensors go In the stock header. 2 bungs on the 1320 header. Just swap both over.

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X Factor 01-14-2016 08:41 PM

So forget the 90 degree fitting in just install the sensors as they are installed on the stock header is that right

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xsl27x 01-14-2016 08:44 PM

Yes. If you're tuned via OFT or ecutek, you don't need to worry about CEL.

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X Factor 01-15-2016 09:17 AM

Yeah I wasn't concerned about a CEL I was going to have a tune, just trying to figure out what to do with the actual sensors

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xsl27x 01-26-2016 05:10 PM

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Pulled the stock header and sensors. Cleaned them up with some MAF cleaner and steel wool, light coat of anti-seize in the bungs and installed. Black in the collector, grey by the flex pipe.

Should be installed tomorrow, just need to source 2 nuts and bolts since the 1320 header doesn't have studs.

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X Factor 01-26-2016 07:25 PM

What overpipe are you using?

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xsl27x 01-26-2016 07:32 PM

1320 54mm to stock front pipe

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xsl27x 01-27-2016 02:34 PM

Got the header and overpipe in today. Just gotta find some bolts to mate them together since it doesn't have pressed in studs.

A few notes though:

I had to use the 90° fitting and extender due to space constraints. Without them, the 02 sensor was jammed against the plastic wheel well and I didn't want the sensor to get bent/damaged during normal driving when the engine shifts. I used red loctite on all the adapter joints so hopefully it doesn't rattle.

There is one header nut that is extremely inaccessible. All others can easily be torqued with an 8" extension + 14mm deep socket, no u-joint needed. To get this nut (driver side, under the runners) use a 14mm crows foot on the 8" extension. I hand tightened this as much as I could first, got all others to 22ft lbs, then came back with the crows foot.
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xsl27x 01-27-2016 03:07 PM

I was able to get the OP in place even after torquing the header all the way down, without raising the engine. Just feed it up through the transmission tunnel and keep rotating towards the drivers side and it will slide into place. Just takes a little finesse and patience.

xsl27x 01-28-2016 02:05 PM

Here's a quick sound clip. I think I have a slight exhaust leak. Probably at the header/op flange.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k5y4nz3o5...34827.mp4?dl=0

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rosol16 02-05-2016 01:27 PM

Any rattles or anything so far? I really don't wanna spend 600+ on a header when I get OP and Header for less than 500

j2digit 02-05-2016 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosol16 (Post 2537148)
Any rattles or anything so far? I really don't wanna spend 600+ on a header when I get OP and Header for less than 500

Recently just installed mines and they do have a rattle coming from what I think is the flex pipes. I definitely feel the difference in power and I had only purchased mine for 275 so I would say worth.

driftjayGT86 02-06-2016 11:04 PM

i have the 1320 headers and overpipe. 400 miles and got a cel but i cant tell if its the O2 or the flex threads broke causing a code. i habe the 1320 headers and OP but i also have the full Invidia N1 system so who knows. hope its a simple fix...just hope the headers aint break....

ryoma 02-06-2016 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftjayGT86 (Post 2538790)
i have the 1320 headers and overpipe. 400 miles and got a cel but i cant tell if its the O2 or the flex threads broke causing a code. i habe the 1320 headers and OP but i also have the full Invidia N1 system so who knows. hope its a simple fix...just hope the headers aint break....

you will get the CEL if you aren't running a stage 2 tune that disables the O2 sensor CEL. O2 spacers don't always work for everyone, if you are running one at all.

driftjayGT86 02-07-2016 12:43 AM

yea i get u and not running anything other than what the box brung however i will be getting a tune this spring. with all the bolt ons and E85 should be looking up to 215-220 whp


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