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lupindub 01-03-2016 09:21 PM

Does the oil change (every 7500 miles or 7.5 month) assume you're using synthetic oil
 
Does the oil change (every 7500 miles or 7.5 month) assume you're using synthetic oil or standard oil? I asked this in another thread but got no response.

shellslinger 01-03-2016 09:22 PM

Synthetic.

Tcoat 01-03-2016 09:22 PM

It is scheduled as per the recommended oil so that would be synthetic.
Are you using standard oil?

ninedice 01-03-2016 09:24 PM

I was changing mine at 7.5 months and got "scolded" by the dealership for not doing it every 6 months even tho the manual says 7.5

I do it every 6 months now.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 01-03-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lupindub (Post 2497358)
Does the oil change (every 7500 miles or 7.5 month) assume you're using synthetic oil or standard oil? I asked this in another thread but got no response.

You shouldn't be using anything but synthetic honestly, and this car asks specifically for it I believe, and it's 7500 miles or 7.5 months whichever comes first so it can be assumed that's using synthetic

ToySub1946 01-03-2016 09:29 PM

Full Synthetic 0W20

And that business of needing to change oil every 6 months, regardless if only minimal miles are driven during that period, is all hogwash in my opinion. Those New Car Dealerships just wanna take our money.

Impureclient 01-03-2016 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2497369)
Full Synthetic 0W20

And that business of needing to change oil every 6 months, regardless if only minimal miles are driven during that period, is all hogwash in my opinion. Those New Car Dealerships just wanna take our money.

I've had mine since 4/15 and have put 3k miles on it so I will probably put 4k every year. Yeah I'm not changing my oil every 6 months at 2k miles.

Tcoat 01-03-2016 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2497369)
Full Synthetic 0W20

And that business of needing to change oil every 6 months, regardless if only minimal miles are driven during that period, is all hogwash in my opinion. Those New Car Dealerships just wanna take our money.

I agree that it is hogwash but don't point the finger just at the dealer. A timed change has been pushed by the oil industry for as long as there have been cars it isn't something that the dealers just made up. Oil sitting unused in your engine is not breaking down and a timed change makes no sense at all. If it breaks down over time then the bottles need to be dated so we always know it is fresh. This is especially true with the modern multi grade synthetics.
There is also the fact that it is the manufacturers recommendation not the dealerships (even if this statement counters my earlier one saying it is the oil companies).

lupindub 01-03-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2497361)
It is scheduled as per the recommended oil so that would be synthetic.
Are you using standard oil?

I am currently using whatever oil the dealership presumably put in before I bought my pre-certified FRS. It's a bummer how expensive oil changes are going to be for these cars though. $50 for 6 quarts of synthetic oil + $10 for the filter.

Tcoat 01-03-2016 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2497376)
I've had mine since 4/15 and have put 3k miles on it so I will probably put 4k every year. Yeah I'm not changing my oil every 6 months at 2k miles.

LOL I do almost 4K a month and have had oil changes almost every two months.
I probably wouldn't in your case either but if you have engine issues they will use that fact to not cover under warranty since it is the minimum required interval.

Tcoat 01-03-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lupindub (Post 2497383)
I am currently using whatever oil the dealership presumably put in before I bought my pre-certified FRS. It's a bummer how expensive oil changes are going to be for these cars though. $50 for 6 quarts of synthetic oil + $10 for the filter.

Good!
Yep but you gotta pay to play. Like I just said above I have had to have the oil changed every two months due to mileage but I knew the frequency and costs before I bought the car and planned for them.
It has been shown on here many times that these engines can be very oil sensitive (like most low displacement, high compression ones are) so messing with other things to save a few bucks just isn't worth the risk.

Impureclient 01-03-2016 10:05 PM

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they will use that fact to not cover under warranty since it is the minimum required interval
They can take their intervals and stick them up their butt. I also got an extended warranty and now realize that was pointless. I think I will have maybe 30k miles at the end of the warranty in 7 years. I'll probably drop that too.

humfrz 01-03-2016 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ninedice (Post 2497362)
I was changing mine at 7.5 months and got "scolded" by the dealership for not doing it every 6 months even tho the manual says 7.5

I do it every 6 months now.

Your dealership may have a point. According to my 2013 FRS-S manual, under severe conditions (repeated short distance driving; driving in extremely cold weather), the oil should be changed every 3,750 miles or 3.75 months.

So, living in Wisconsin would qualify you for the cold weather bit ..... how about your driving habits ...... ??


humfrz

humfrz 01-03-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient (Post 2497376)
I've had mine since 4/15 and have put 3k miles on it so I will probably put 4k every year. Yeah I'm not changing my oil every 6 months at 2k miles.

Well now, you could buy a case of 12 quarts of Genuine Toyota Motor Oil from Amazon ($80) (keep the receipt).

Get one of those fancy twist open drain plugs.

Change the oil at every 6 months (DIY - keep a log) (keep the old oil for the change after next)........ put in new oil ........you see where I'm going with this ...... :D

Back in the day, we used to drain the oil out of the new car ...... put it in the old truck ....... drain that oil out of the truck and put it in the oldest tractor ...... drain that oil and return it to the earth (by spraying it on the gravel road in front of the house, to keep down the dust).

Sheesh ...... and the folks today think they invented recycling ..... :popcorn:


humfrz

N1rve 01-03-2016 11:56 PM

If you're following the manual and changing your oil with 0W-20. It only comes in Synthetic as far as I can recall. There might be some Synthetic-blend of 0W-20, but for sure it's some sort of Synthetic.

shellslinger 01-04-2016 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2497421)
Well now, you could buy a case of 12 quarts of Genuine Toyota Motor Oil from Amazon ($80) (keep the receipt).

Get one of those fancy twist open drain plugs.

Change the oil at every 6 months (DIY - keep a log) (keep the old oil for the change after next)........ put in new oil ........you see where I'm going with this ...... :D

Back in the day, we used to drain the oil out of the new car ...... put it in the old truck ....... drain that oil out of the truck and put it in the oldest tractor ...... drain that oil and return it to the earth (by spraying it on the gravel road in front of the house, to keep down the dust).

Sheesh ...... and the folks today think they invented recycling ..... :popcorn:


humfrz

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Just poking fun at you @humfrz! :drinking:

humfrz 01-04-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shellslinger (Post 2497469)
Just poking fun at you @humfrz! :drinking:

Well, my father had a 4 year, government paid vacation to North Africa and Italy.

My war came later ...... :(


humfrz

mav1178 01-04-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ToySub1946 (Post 2497369)
Full Synthetic 0W20

And that business of needing to change oil every 6 months, regardless if only minimal miles are driven during that period, is all hogwash in my opinion. Those New Car Dealerships just wanna take our money.

Oil change intervals are recommended assuming worst case car ownership scenarios, i.e. you don't take care of your car.

Oi change intervals, in reality, should be dictated by your driving needs and oil consumption and contamination as determined by used oil analysis.

Just because it's not applicable to you doesn't mean it's not applicable to everyone else.

-alex

JTM 01-04-2016 02:58 PM

The 6 month recommendation is for standard/Non-Synthetic oil as it becomes corrosive over time. This is a big deal in the restoration world and they are very strict about changing the oil on a motor than has been cranked.

N1rve 01-05-2016 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JTM (Post 2497881)
The 6 month recommendation is for standard/Non-Synthetic oil as it becomes corrosive over time. This is a big deal in the restoration world and they are very strict about changing the oil on a motor than has been cranked.

The frs/brz has a 6 month or 7.5 month interval (depending on the year), the recommended oil is 0w20. It doesn't matter if it's standard/non synthetic for 6 months because 0w20 does not come in non-Synthetic.

Bottom line is it's a 6 month or 7.5 month oil change with synthetic because 0w20 only comes in Synthetic. I believe the 13-14 is 7.5 months per the manual and 15+ is 6 months.

Ultramaroon 01-05-2016 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 2497846)
Oil change intervals are recommended assuming worst case car ownership scenarios, i.e. you don't take care of your car.

Oi change intervals, in reality, should be dictated by your driving needs and oil consumption and contamination as determined by used oil analysis.

Just because it's not applicable to you doesn't mean it's not applicable to everyone else.

-alex

I was going to keep my mouth shut for fear of being called out but I change my oil when I can feel/hear the change in the engine. I can't bring myself to drive a fill of Mobile-1 for more than about 4000 miles.

I can also feel it when my oil is about a third of a quart low. I never miss so I've learned to trust my gut.


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